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How about small scale but larger than family size collective farming, with appropriate technological aids? The kind of setup where sick leave and vacations would be available? In an LLP wrapper, of course!
Family farms and industrial agri-business are not the only possiblities in agriculture, I think. I hear some people actually like living in the countryside. And how some of them are a bit annoyed sometimes when 'them city types' view them as somehow less privileged for having to endure the burden of rural life. I don't particularly want to think that were we all to achieve some kind of 'enlightenment', everyone would like to: "do forty hour desk jobs in some cubicle, go home, enjoy their regular schedule and vacations and in general have a life apart from their job".
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Wed Jan 3rd, 2007 at 06:54:12 PM EST
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How about small scale but larger than family size collective farming, with appropriate technological aids? The kind of setup where sick leave and vacations would be available?

Fine if done voluntarily. Encourage it through laws and regulations making it easier. But that's easier said than done since farmers tend to have a rather strong attachment to owning their own land, if possible.

btw, I think you misunderstood me. I didn't say people should like their cubicle jobs, just that a regular, limited work schedule which allows time for a proper life outside of work beats the alternative. There's more to life than work, and I don't think that it's good to encourage greater numbers of people to have jobs that completely dominate their lives.  Sure some people like heavy physical labour - whether on a farm or on some construction project or wherever, but most don't and family farming is especially problematic because of its all consuming nature.

As for city bias - I plead guilty. I like crowds and having everything I could possibly want right near me. No car needed or desired.  Trees on the streets and parks are also good, but I feel better surrounded by concrete, asphalt, and brick than I do surrounded by nature.

by MarekNYC on Wed Jan 3rd, 2007 at 08:05:00 PM EST
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BTW, I didn't respond to Marek's point about sick leave and vacations. I don't know about the US (where family farms all but don't exist any more), but in Europe farmers can get both. It's not as good a cover as for salaried workers, but the same can be said of all self-employed people in other trades and professions. One of the things a redirection of CAP subsidies would have to address would be how to improve this aspect of farming.

But I quite agree, someone, that it's not just a question of "family farms" that conjure up the image of grinding hard work and lack of freedom Marek brings up. There could certainly be other forms of organisation.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jan 4th, 2007 at 02:44:13 AM EST
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in Europe farmers can get both

<cough> In Western Europe, afaik. <re-cough> ;)

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jan 4th, 2007 at 12:29:14 PM EST
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In an LLP wrapper, of course!

;)

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Jan 4th, 2007 at 04:38:45 AM EST
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