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By the way, what do you think of film versions?

I saw the David Lynch version beforew reading the books, and was impressed (though then I liked the book even better), only later did I learn of the broadly negative reviews it received.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jan 7th, 2007 at 07:30:02 AM EST
I was disappointed in the version starring Kyle McLachlan.  I don't think they captured anything very important about the book and what they did capture wasn't done very well IMO.  I understand there is another version, possibly a European production?  I haven't seen it although some clips I saw looked interesting.  Did they do a better job?

Sorry for the short answers.  I am pressed for time this morning.

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by budr on Sun Jan 7th, 2007 at 09:53:43 AM EST
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Since the film drew me to the book, Lynch did capture something :-) The other version, a TV mini-series, is an international coproduction (f.e. William Hurt is in it as Leto). An IMDB commenter titled his/her review "The Gutting of a Masterpiece". Myself, I only watched part of it, found it too didactic and slow-moving, though probably closer to the book.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jan 7th, 2007 at 02:16:04 PM EST
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The sequel is quite watchable, and a good summary of the next books in the series. I'm not sure if it's better or worse than the books, but it works as a stand-alone production that's mostly true to them without being too garish and Hollywoody.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Jan 7th, 2007 at 07:45:39 PM EST
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I also discovered Dune through the Lynch movie - then I read the book, and the other books.

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by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 7th, 2007 at 03:17:25 PM EST
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I regarded the David Lynch movie as a parody.

The book has what the Fremen describe as the "weirding way" of fighting, a discipline drawing on Bene Gesserit training and high martial arts. The movie has "weirding modules", little techno-gadget weapons that get burned in a storeroom. And so on.

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by technopolitical on Sun Jan 7th, 2007 at 03:20:20 PM EST
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"Parody" is kind. I have thought for a decade or two about what might have been his intent in making the movie as he did, and I am still at a loss. For a while I thought he was just fascinated by the wonderfully evil Von Harkonnen character, and let it take over (and rot) his brain. I saw the thing a (bleeg) second time with a friend, and just gave up searching for an explanation for the butchery other than that he really hated the movie, and, sensing a market for the more perverse images in Dune, seized on them, and got paid well to do an asassination job on it.
As you may be able to tell, I did not really like it much.
That said, it would be extremely difficult and costly to do a fair job on the movie- too long for one episode, I think. Unless the theaters were equipped for an overnight stay of the patrons, at least. Actually, to me it is nice to see a vision too vast, an imagination too unruled to be reduced to a three-hour non-involved absorption experience in a theater.
I know what a hobbit looks like, and I also have my cherished "Dune" in my head and heart. I am happy to keep my own images.

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by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Mon Jan 8th, 2007 at 06:14:45 AM EST
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I remember reading at the time that there is a large ammount of more film that didn't get included in the final cut, and the result that we all got to see was a massacre produced by the studio to reduce a much smaller film that could play in the cinema.

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jan 8th, 2007 at 02:04:55 PM EST
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At the time, there was an amazing amount of gossip about what the hell was going on with this film -- the rumors were flying fast and furious that the set was a nightmare, the budget was hemorrhaging money, the time schedule was shot to hell, and that Lynch was fighting with the studios.  There were also stories about Lynch becoming obsessive over the most minor of set details, compulsively adding scenes, and that no one really understood what he thought he was doing.  The actors were even being questioned by reporters before the film was done and they were resorting to meaningless phrases like "Lynch has his own way of doing things" or "he's a visionary and I just do my job."

If one is familiar with LA set-leak gossip, this particular fact set screamed one thing -- drug problems.  Not that I'm making any accusations or anything, but if it walks like a massive coke binge, etc....

I went to see this damned film opening night and it was one of the biggest disappointments in movie-going history, imo.  I still do have the souvenir print-out thing they gave out, though.

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by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 8th, 2007 at 02:47:09 PM EST
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More would have been worse, if it was created by the same mind. Adding less-awful scenes would still increase the aggregate awfulness.

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by technopolitical on Mon Jan 8th, 2007 at 04:12:55 PM EST
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... I am happy to keep my own images.

I'm told I would enjoy the Lord of the Rings movies. I refuse to risk the effects of seeing it.

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by technopolitical on Mon Jan 8th, 2007 at 04:08:51 PM EST
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I agree. They would need cuffs and a forklift to get me into hobbit reeducation. Using my own imagination has gotten to be a hobbit with me. (Sorry).

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Tue Jan 9th, 2007 at 07:56:58 AM EST
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I've never watched a Dune movie, and I don't think I will: I saw a short clip of the Lynch one, with the Baron opening people like coke cans and put it on my "do not see list".

I need a new copy of Dune. Mine is worn out.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jan 8th, 2007 at 06:22:15 AM EST
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Or possibly I did see the movie and deleted it almost entirely from my memory. I'm not sure.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jan 8th, 2007 at 06:29:33 AM EST
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For the record, you saw the worst scene of the movie, not a typical one. But Lynch was definitely self-serving with no good purpose with such horror bits.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jan 8th, 2007 at 10:15:18 AM EST
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