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i think all the energy dispensed into religion for millennia....all the mumbling, pontificating, gesticulating, sacrifices, penitence, aspirations etc had been channelled into a religious respect for the environment instead, we'd have a much better world.

in a sense, religion describes awe and humility, which are appropriate emotions for contemplating the power of nature, and our recent comprehension of our own collective power to screw up a fragile balance that has sustained mammalian life for a long, long time.

veneration for the bioshere...works for me.

what i find fanatic is the blind assumption that the oil economy is non-negotiable, or that conservation is impractical...

well it's 'impractical' to try and get between a hungry hog and a trough, or a celebrity and a camera, or a repug and an energy lobbyist, but if their selfishness is threatening the continued existence of our species, we have to try.

or sit back on our hands and watch the trainwreck...

my god....doesn't give too many brownie points for that!

the smaller the footprint, the closer the walk with god....

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jan 10th, 2007 at 05:51:20 AM EST
"awe and humility" aren't appropriate emotions with regards to anything at all. Humanity would be best off by shitting on ever sacred image anyone holds dear.

Conservation IS impractical. No advanced economy, least of all the Nordic countries which are the hallmarks of all things environmental, conserves energy to any significant extent.

by richardk (richard kulisz gmail) on Wed Jan 10th, 2007 at 08:25:21 AM EST
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Conservation IS impractical. No advanced economy, least of all the Nordic countries which are the hallmarks of all things environmental, conserves energy to any significant extent.

Nobody can build a heavier than air flying machine, so no-one ever will.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 10th, 2007 at 08:28:17 AM EST
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What conservation is is inconvenient.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 10th, 2007 at 08:31:20 AM EST
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How about shitting on your sacred image of an advanced economy?

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 10th, 2007 at 08:32:04 AM EST
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Thank you for this. I go by the old adage of judging people by their enemies. And by that criterion, you do a great deal to reassure me.
by richardk (richard kulisz gmail) on Sat Jan 13th, 2007 at 09:38:07 AM EST
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"awe and humility" aren't appropriate emotions with regards to anything at all

Kewl!  Like, dude!

NUCLEAR IS THE BEST.  FUCK YOU IF YOU DON'T THINK SO.  YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DIE AND I DON'T, EVEN THOUGH MOST OF THEM ARE THICK As SHIT, JUST LIKE YOU, COZ YOU DON'T THINK THINGS THROUGH AND ER...

Conservation IS impractical

Of course!  It IS impractical to...conserve.  Not practical...to conserve....What is practical is...to consume everything NOW!

Too cool for words.  You can't expect people to conserve--they're all too fucken stoopid and hard-wired to use and abuse.  Right, so let's give 'em nuclear power.

Or did you mean "to conserve the energy we produce"?  Or...ya know...I still get lost when you start talking about shitting on the shit, or whatever the shit it fucken was.

One might think rationality would include thinking about...ya know...what you say and how it comes across...

Lord, am I still in Nomad's thread?  Sorry Nomad!  I couldn't help myself!

On a serious note, richardk, have you seen this film yet?  I think you'll love it.  Lots of clips at youtube.



Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed Jan 10th, 2007 at 08:46:55 AM EST
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