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At first I thought:

"If you watch the dancer's bouncing foot you'll see (I think) that the image slowly changes and then reverses direction."

But I watched and...no change.  Then I looked away and back: she's dancing the other way!

Then, if I looked at the text on the left and not the picture I could catch the shifts--and then I pondered how it worked, watched the text and kept the image on the periphery of my vision--the image seemed to be skating along, wobbling the way those speed skaters do.

And then, I could even get the image--for a moment or two--to turn one way and then the other.  Very clever!

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 03:48:57 PM EST
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I have to say (for the sake of science) that she was dancing clockwise first time I watched--and then I made (my brain watch) her go the other way.

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 03:57:13 PM EST
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Family test: We all saw her dancing clockwise to start with.

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:13:36 PM EST
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Yep, and havent answered yet because I still can't make her spin the other way.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:21:09 PM EST
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Look at the text, not the picture (that's my suggestion.)

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:31:06 PM EST
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nope, still definitely only clockwise.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:54:31 PM EST
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It's like those 3D pictures...until I could see them I thought there was some big conspiracy where everyone was saying they saw something that wasn't there.

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:56:36 PM EST
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Aha, put my hand over most of the picture till I could only see the foot and the shadow, and suddenly POP, took my hand away and for a couple of seconds it turned the other way, til I thought "Wow it does actually work" then I "saw the whole thing and pop it was gone.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 05:02:03 PM EST
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I've looked at it about 4 separate times now.  3 times I immediately saw clockwise, the 4th I saw anti-clockwise first.  Mostly I can refocus and swap directions but it was harder to do when I got very tired. Good to see everyone has been well entertained in my absence!

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 09:21:12 PM EST
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I had the same exact experience.  She was going clockwise at first, and I tried consciously to make her go the other way, and it didn't work at all.  But I looked away at the text, and there was a bounce or a blink, and when I looked back she was going the other way.

Which led me to believe that it's a trick -- maybe the image changes?  It doesn't make sense otherwise.

I looked at it for while longer, looked away a few times, watched her switch directions a few more times, and this time paid attention to whether she was standing on her left leg or her right.  And that changes too, so I still thought the image itself must change.

But now I've stared at it a good long time, and I've been able to actually focus enough to see her switch directions a lot more often, almost but not entirely whenever I want to.

I am still not convinced that the image doesn't change at some point, though, because I can't see both images at the same time, and usually with these perception-switching tricks I can.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:21:40 PM EST
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I checked the file. No trick. It's a short loop.

I also tried it on an assortment of willing victims, who all saw something different. At the same time.

Clockwise for me, by default, but I can make her switch by looking at her lower foot.

Trying to make her switch by looking at her arms made me feel ill.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:24:08 PM EST
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Yeah, lower foot works for me too.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:28:32 PM EST
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I don't think the image changes.  It's all in the feet, and what you concentrate on, I think.  If I look at the lowest shadow that comes in and out of the frame, she moves clockwise, but if I look at the foot in the center of the bottom of the image and look up, she moves counter-clockwise.  That how I make it change.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:30:10 PM EST
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So far we're all seeing clockwise.  Any anti-clockwise people around?  (If there are none, that would suggest that ET is strongly one way--and I'd like to see a scientific explanation of how the image works...any links much appreciated!  Thing is, in the text of the article it states: "Most of us would see the dancer turning anti-clockwise.")


Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:35:13 PM EST
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Well, I think it goes without saying that the denizens of ET are not most people. :-)

(Although for sitemeter purposes, some possibly might wish that they were....)

I think the count is one anti-clockwise and everyone else clockwise, so far.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:37:42 PM EST
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I think we're all clockwise so far.  Did I miss a comment?

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:49:19 PM EST
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All of mine.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:50:48 PM EST
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I mean, to clarify, when I first see it it is always going counter clockwise. But I can also see it go clockwise if I want to.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:52:26 PM EST
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Ah!  Yes!

(I just checked: she was going counter clockwise in your honour.)

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:59:50 PM EST
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I can only see it counter clockwise. I'm left handed if that has anything to do with it.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 05:02:18 PM EST
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Are there any brain specialists aroung?



Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 05:09:50 PM EST
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a dog sniffing something on the ground?

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 07:14:56 PM EST
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Do you ask that because you can't find your dalmatian in the picture?

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 07:19:30 PM EST
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I ask because I see a dalmation oblivious to the fact that it is about to be eaten by a huge snake.

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 07:22:21 PM EST
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Counter-clockwise at first. Took me some time, but now I can change from one view to the other pretty fast.

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 11:05:06 PM EST
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Thing is, in the text of the article it states: "Most of us would see the dancer turning anti-clockwise."
Ah, but we all know that ET is not populated by the most common elements. Tomorrow I will make everyone at work look at this thing. A whole pile of scientists and engineers. It shall be most interesting to see if they all fall within the easy expectation of 'left-brained', or if there are other things afoot, and the kind of work that we do in fact requires/benefits from a large amount of 'right-brain' creativity.
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:42:10 PM EST
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I'm wondering if there's a bias towards "right brain"--maybe from the designers.  If they say "most people see anti-clockwise" but, in fact, most people see "clockwise", then most people will feel special--plus right brain is sorta associated with seeing the big picture, tuning into emotions, and other elements that I think most humans would like to think they are good at.

So...

Er...

Don't forget to report back!

(And anyone with links to those who designed this--mucho appreciatum!)

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:46:42 PM EST
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huh.  I guess I'm not part of "we all."  Fine, have your little clique.  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:49:52 PM EST
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Oh oh! Let's not alienate out anti-clockwise contignent! Maybe we need some ET Equality directive, forbidding discrimination based on brain-sidedness?
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 04:57:38 PM EST
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I'll draft one up. You'll each need to draft your own for implementation and compliance within your own countries though.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 09:22:47 PM EST
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Clockwise is the only thing I'm getting. I'm left-handed, I wonder how or if that factors in?

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (michael<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 06:11:31 PM EST
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how about eye dominance? I'm right eye dominant and it goes clockwise

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 06:21:56 PM EST
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No luck.  I'm left-eyed, and it goes clockwise first for me too.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 06:30:00 PM EST
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Oh, I'm left eye dominant as well.  We have SO much in common.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 09:24:18 PM EST
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