In any case... always great to hear about them..
A pleasure I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude
(I have to say, reading the Old Testament stories...explains a lot of "right wing" thinking, all the violence, backstabbing, evil intent--God chief among the violent, backstabbing, and intender of evil--endlessly followed by some form of atonement and the chosen people staying "chosen"; their misdeeds (and God's misdeeds) endlessly forgiven--by God and by them--a circular story--inward-looking, a race myth that made its way, via christianity, to far-flung places. That's my re-reading, anyway.) Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
Reminds me of rememberinggiap's comments over at moonofalabama about U.S. films of Vietnam, where the attention is always "What happened to us?", good, bad, the attention always on the U.S. and not on those who were the recipients of U.S. behaviour--I mean...the only position outside of self-referentiality (no stepping into other people's shoes!) is the objectivity offered by God, who in turn is endlessly concentrated on their deeds.
A metaphor for how humans are acting on the planet: are we causing climate change? Are we guilty? Have we done wrong? And the poor polar bears...are "other"; and we don't watch the films about how we appear in their eyes...of course...ach...I no makea ze sense! Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
First and ofremost , schooling.. and teachers in Spain n the 80's .. that's an stuyle of teaching, of education, of.. well everything...
the second origin was a God is love catholiticism very common in spain in the 80's.. a mixture of lvoe philosophy with jesus as some kind of friend. You know all that stuff about loving the otherspecially if it is a foreigner and weird....
The thrid one of course.. my TV..a cutally migeru's and mine.. (we had teh sam TV so we recognize ourselves in our narratives and description).. basically our own Espinete.. and soem comfamous comics..and the old star trek.. also La clave and other p discussion-like cult programs where discussing was abut intelligent people talking intelligent things surrounded by a lot of smoke..
If someon is from the US I would say the more similar mythology you can get is if you take the star Trek New Genrations or Voyager mythology and you take out all the "Marine" stuff".
For me, the relationship between ethics and religious literature is in the development of moral sensibilities, understanding, intuitions, or beliefs that help each of us adapt to right or wrong, good or bad, governing behavior. Creativity and destruction are complex passages between personal and economic growth. Simple though these stories may be, they have enduring value as guides to the major issues that transformational leaders face and their chances of success.
which ought not be confuse with others' myths.
You operate under some other set of assumptions, really? Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
Creativity and destruction are complex passages
yes!
between personal
and
And?
economic growth.
Huh? That's a wiiiiiiide use of the word economic, or it means that the two poles aren't self <--> society, rather they are self <--> business
and business is busyness is busy busy, no time to stop (all that past chasing me!)
how about "...between personal and...public"?
"and cosmic"
"and...'other(s)'"
Please use this space if you wish to state what the other(s) may be.
Oink!
So Bush's public role is fully negative, no matter how much an individual's economy might grow.
What is a transformational leader?
My first answer: a person who has transformed themselves OUT of the very idea of wanting to be "a leader" as opposed to simply leading where necessary and jollying along with everyone else for the rest of the day.
Of course some poor souls (noble souls!) are forced by circumstance and intelligence and through a basic empathy with all other living beings to keep leading in dangerous directions--the ANTI Bush: Martin Luther King, who was shot.
He may have been a trasformational leader, but it was the CONTENT that counted. I suppose it is quite possible (maybe simple) to lead a person through a transformation TO SOMETHING WORSE!
Beware!
;)
I'm still looking forward to kcurie's diary on magic. Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
Where/when I was born there was no concept of creativity.. nor destruction.. I encontered this narrative much mroe later and in other cultures.. so I was grown up without this american (among others) idea of such a thing as creativity... believe me.. Michelangelo and all that people were not creators.. they were weird people painting stuff.
The same goes for destruction.. even when a hurricane stroke.. it was not destructive.. it was just the hurricane happening.
The same goes with personal growth.. I must say some peopel around tried to put me into the "you have to grow to become a better person".... but closest family worked with other rules, since most of my family started working when they were 7-14 and adolescence did not exist, they expected me to behave properly or not-properly on the spot...thsi stuff of growing and becoming a better person was for... "rich stupid guys".. you are you now... that make me later realize all the mythology surrounding the "you should grow and in your growht you will dominate sex and make it worthwhile" given that sex was a completley different issue whch you did had to dominate but with a rithual not by growing.. thanks to this disconenction between two myths I was able to realize this narrative without comapring with other cultures (I am smart je je je).
The same goes for transformational leader.. nothing more alien to TV I was raised in.. ask Migeru for that...Espinete, la Bruja averia, Marco., Baner y Flappy .. there was not a single transformation leader among them... I only saw that in star Trek.. years later due to the Marine captain stuff... and it always seemed weird to me.. ( we used to think.. those crazy americans!!!)
But of course I do love hearing about your narratives.. really.
