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http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeathsByYear.aspx

(I could not figure out how to insert it as a static image file.)

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by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Oct 19th, 2007 at 07:18:02 AM EST
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I don't know about that, fhe figures for Iraqui casualties are I think too unreliable, and have been messed around with too much to produce any useful data.we have groups in differnt areas producing casulaty figures thatsuggest the differing success of their own internal factors.

I think the only probably reasonably accurate figures are those for US casualties, as its hard to hide bodies turning up on the home front.

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 19th, 2007 at 08:49:50 AM EST
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I agree, coalition regulars are the only variable counted in any resonably fair manner. This plot does:


(Click for details)

The bars are week by week casualties and the blue line is a four week moving average. It might look a bit of to the right because it is the average of the current week and the three weeks preceding this week. Following the blue line we can see that it has been an extended higher level of violence starting around september 2006. We also see that the level of violence varies greatly and picking four relatively calm weeks in september 2007 as proof of anything is highly dubious.

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by A swedish kind of death on Sat Oct 20th, 2007 at 12:25:47 PM EST
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Wev'e been talking a lot about the presentation of data without a lot of discussion about data collection methods. Granted, that's not the topic at hand, but once we get into Iraq deaths, we reallyneed to remember that it's fantasyland.

The collection of data for Iraqi and US deaths is about as fraudulent as one could imagine- what the tame Iraqis have done, along with the PCA is to delete large pieces of data and massage the rest, thereby cooking the books.- such as deaths by IED,(gone) and, in  the case of Civilian deaths, redefining criminal vs. sectarian deaths by preposterous criteria- like whether they got shot in the front of the head vs. the back of the head.

Garbage in- garbage out.

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by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Wed Oct 24th, 2007 at 07:57:01 AM EST
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...and is one of the hardest things for end-users of news media to detect.

It is possible to write entire books on the subject of data collection, and I decided that it was beyond the scope of this guide to include it - especially considering the fact that many of the techniques to detect doctored data acquisition require that you get your hands on the primary sources, which is a lot of bother for a newspaper aticle.

And often hacks will employ both bad data and bad presentation. It's usually easier to nail them on the presentation side of things...

But you're certainly right that any total figure for Iraqi casualties less than half a million or so is pure fiction. The official numbers certainly are. By at least an order of magnitude.

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Oct 24th, 2007 at 04:02:40 PM EST
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Sometime back I read, or heard, the US military isn't counting military deaths occurring outside Iraq in with the Iraqi count.  This little practice means a soldier who is severely wounded in Iraq but latter dies in a hospital in Germany, say, isn't included.

I have not been able to verify this.

by ATinNM on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 12:57:00 AM EST
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That is certainly interesting, if true.

OTOH, soldier deaths are useful (to the extent that deaths can be useful...) primarily as a proxy for how things are going in general. So it does not really matter whether they lie a bit about the real numbers, as long as they've been lying in the same way since the war started.

The absolute values of coalition fatality figures from Vietraq are suspect anyway due to the fairly widespread employment of mercenary militias by the Coalition, as their numbers do not count towards casualties when they get killed.

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 08:19:03 AM EST
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