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Went to the Minneapolis Auto Show last spring with a friend who was car shopping.  Got there slightly early so had time to walk around downtown.

The building on the left may be Phillip Johnson's best.  Simple shape with MANY corner offices.  The building on the right is a Caesar Pelli--beautiful shape clad with a favorite local stone.  Minneapolis dvelopers have often hired "name" architects.

Minneapolis HAD an extensive light rail system that was deliberately destroyed in the late 1940s.  It's replacement has ONE line.  Rolling stock by Bombardier.  Note building in background.  A favorite among those of us who believe only REAL builders can do curves.

The star of the auto show.  We have REAL winters in Minnesota which make such vehicles impractical.  Maybe two will sell in the state.  It was about 5 months after the R8 made the covers of the USA car magazines.  

A favorite of mine.  This is the Chrysler Turbine 1963.  Body by Ghia. Note the tail lights.  They made the trunk are almost totally inaccessible but DID look like a fighter thrusters.  The turbine used a lot of fuel and produced asphalt melting exhaust temps but otherwise this car actually worked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Turbine_Car


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by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Fri Oct 19th, 2007 at 03:57:49 AM EST
Thanks for posting this. I've never been to Minnesota.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Fri Oct 19th, 2007 at 04:06:19 AM EST
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If you ever get a chance to visit Minnesota, take it. It's a beautiful state. There's a reason why the state's motto is the Star of the North. My favorite time to visit is in September as the leaves are turning.

Some of my favorite places to visit are St. Paul, especially Grand Avenue and Como Park and Historic Ft. Snelling. The lakes in Minnepolis, be sure to ride the Como-Harriet streetcar by Lake Calhoun.

Outside of the Twin Cities there is the St. Croix valley and the Mississippi as it flows to south toward Iowa. The western state has beautiful prairies and fields of corn (maize). Duluth is one of my favorite places, especially Lake Superior. The Depot Museum has a great collection of locomotives. A short drive north is Two Harbors and the ore docks. Even farther north is Ely and the Boundary Waters Canoe Area -- chains of glacial lakes surrounded by pines and aspens.

It's a lovely state -- very much worth visiting and it has quite a bit of a French connection, historically speaking.

by Magnifico on Fri Oct 19th, 2007 at 04:26:50 AM EST
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We who live here often forget how beautiful it can be.  Thank you for your kind reminder.  The University of Minnesota's landscape arboretum claims this weekend is the peak for fall colors,  It used to be around Octorber 9th.  Blame warm a autumn and changing climate.

As for the French influence--some of us wish there was more of it ;-)

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"

by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Fri Oct 19th, 2007 at 04:24:00 PM EST
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I've always been indifferent to the IDS building ("the building on the left" as techno put it). The fact that it looks two dimensional from many angles is pretty neat, though.

Gotta throw in the Foshay Tower if we're doing Minneapolis skyscraper architecture.



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by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Oct 19th, 2007 at 01:50:33 PM EST
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Thanks for the addition.  I actually had cropped out Foshay on the picture I posted.

When the IDS building was erected, the Foshay Tower was the tallest building in Minnesota.  Folks would joke that the IDS building was the "box Foshay came in."

Built in the late 1920s, Foshay, and the economic problems it spawned, would become part of this hstory of the Great Depression.  It is a beautiful building with many Art Deco features.  It is in need of serious repair but a new owner promises it will be rebuilt to its original splendor.

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"

by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Fri Oct 19th, 2007 at 04:13:33 PM EST
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I have no idea what architecture critics say about IDS, but I DO know the locals love it.  The main reason is that it accurately reflects the sky.  We live in a VERY active weather zone and the changing sky is an aesthetic highlight around here.  It's central court is still a model of a well-designed public space.  And there are hundreds of offices with spectacular views.  This is the kind of building folks will lie down in front of bulldozers to save.

Tellingly, Pelli designed his building to be just a bit shorter out of respect for Johnson's masterpiece.  In a profession known for its arrogant prima donnas, this was a VERY classy move.

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"

by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Fri Oct 19th, 2007 at 11:53:42 PM EST
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Well, I lived in Minneapolis for 25 years - my anecdotal experience with people's reaction to the building was more neutral, although still positive. I like the Minneapolis skyline as it is now - it is nicely shaped (I am pretty sensitive to shapes and how they are combined in space).

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 01:42:32 PM EST
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The real-world chrysler turbine that I serviced as a kid (I was a passionate hot-rodder, and worked at a dealer station run by Texaco)was "on lease", like all the chrysler turbines" to the police chief of the city of Grandview, Ohio. The actual turbine was tiny, but the largest thing under the hood was a heat exchanger shaped like a beer keg that rotated through the exhaust and induction air, and preheated the combustion air as it came in to improve throttle response and fuel efficiency, as well as cooling the exhaust gasses. It got about 12- 14 miles to the gallon in actual use, put out about 140 horsepower, and was surprisingly peppy for so little listed power in so large a body-chassis (Chrysler 300-series).It had about a one or one and a half-second lag between throttle application and the onset of acceleration- disconcerting at first, but easily adjusted to.
The incredible thing about the car was it's simplicity. It was just a true gutless wonder. The total number of moving parts in the entire engine powerhead was under ten. During the two years we serviced it, we did nothing but change the synthetic oil. Once. Chrysler bragged about the near-miraculous simplicity and ease of maintenance of the car-- and then realized their mistake, and recalled every one, and destroyed them. Sad. What a sucky business model.  

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat Oct 20th, 2007 at 03:46:37 AM EST
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I can assure you that no one in MY town got to drive one of those 50 turbine cars.  In fact, even though I closely followed this story, I never got to see a real Chrysler turbine until last spring.  I also had forgotten that in 1963, 12 mpg was acceptable gas mileage.

What I hadn't forgotten was how pathetic 140 horsepower was in those times.  By the time I got to my hot-rodding days in the late 1960s, you could buy a Chevy Nova with 375 hp.  No tires or brakes or suspensions, mind you, but enough power to rotate the planet ;-)

My guess is that Chrysler bailed on the turbine engine when they actually discovered how expensive it would be to produce.  As my university professor of transportation technology reminded me one day when I was extolling the future of the Wankel engine, "Just remember, the easiest, most reliable machining operation is the production of a round hole.  Piston engines will be with us a long time."  Even now with CNC mills, machining turbine parts is still hideously expensive.

And they would never have fixed the fuel consumption problem.  Even after 45 years of expensive research since 1963, gas turbine engines are only fuel efficient in high-altitude uses where operating rotations are fixed for long periods.

But when I was bouncing along in my dad's Ford station wagon in the early 60s, I would dream of the silkiness of a turbine powered ride.  The technological optimism of those days was utterly intoxicating.

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"

by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Sat Oct 20th, 2007 at 07:27:21 AM EST
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