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The skeptics won't be pleased by anything less than:

1. The UK leaving the EU, but - perhaps - staying inside the trade area.

or

2. The EU becoming the new British Empire, with the UK firmly in charge, telling all those greasy foreigners how to behave in a civilised way.

The EU's problem is that it's easier for Poland and the UK to run spoiler campaigns when no one seems sure what the EU is supposed to be. Is it aiming for federalism? Neo-liberal business growth? An original vision of cooperation between countries?

The Treaty hasn't solved that problem. This agreement has been running on momentum created the meme that the EU is somehow A Good Thing, but if you ask people why, they're going to have a hard time coming up with convincing reasons.

It's not that the reasons don't exist, it's more that instead of bimbling around with not-a-constitution, the EU could have done itself a big favour by articulating those reasons clearly, and giving everyone a reason to care.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Oct 19th, 2007 at 06:58:41 AM EST
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Just having the momentum and the EU as A Good Thing is enough for me.

It keeps the Germans from invading France, limits separtism and at the same time increases trade and cooperation. What's not to like?

OK, the madmen in Brussels trying to deregulate things they don't understand, but still it comes out positive on the whole.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Fri Oct 19th, 2007 at 07:08:51 AM EST
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Is it aiming for federalism? Neo-liberal business growth? An original vision of cooperation between countries?

I think the Treaty answers those questions:

. No it is not Federalism we are talking about, but the Treaty should strengthen the Confederal framework.

. Yes to neo-liberal business growth, about 80% of the EU citizens have been voting for Liberal politics, that won't change. That's not the aim of the Treaty anyway.

. Yes it is an original vision of cooperation between countries. The EU has been that since the very beginning, this Treaty is just one step further from loose cooperation to an institutional framework, that has only one place to go: a Federation.

Vencit omnia veritas.

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Fri Oct 19th, 2007 at 08:20:56 AM EST
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