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Negative 7% is a decline to 48.3982% of current production at the end of 10 years?

Jeebus criminey, that is Not Good.

How reliable is the Energy Watch Group?

by ATinNM on Sun Oct 21st, 2007 at 09:31:38 PM EST
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Well looking at their website they appear to be linked to the German Greens, and a pile of alternative enrgy companies. If they have a bias, then you'd expect them to be exxagerating the problems with oil.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Oct 21st, 2007 at 10:30:28 PM EST
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could be that existing production declines by 7%, but total production (i.e. including new fields put on stream) declines less quickly.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 01:33:24 AM EST
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The EWG makes rather detailed research papers, so I don't believe they made such a gross error. This could be a journalist quoting out of context. I go look at what it said in the original.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 08:01:40 AM EST
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On page 67 of the now posted report (pdf, 101 pages!):

According to the scenario calculations, oil production will decline by about 50% until 2030. This is equivalent to an average annual decline rate of 3%, well in line with the US experience where oil production from the lower 48 states declined by 2-3% per year.

However, it must be noted that this is a moderate assumption as today a large fraction of the oil is produced offshore. Offshore fields are produced by very aggressive modern extraction methods, e.g. injection of water, gas, heat and surfactants - in order to increase the pressure and decrease the viscosity - and horizontal drilling - in order to extract the oil faster. These methods allow the faster extraction of the oil for a limited time. The horizontal wells allow to extract more oil per time, but as soon as the water level reaches the horizontal well, oil production switches to water production almost within several months. These production methods lead to decline rates after peak of 10% per year or even more (e.g. 14% per year in Cantarell (Mexico), 8-10% in Alaska, UK and Norway, more than 10% in Oman and possibly 10% or more in Ghawar, the world's largest oil field in Saudi Arabia).



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 08:09:56 AM EST
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Now I have went through the actual report, the executive summary, and the press report -- I nowhere find 7% therein, only 3%. Methinks the Guardian made some big error...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 08:23:21 AM EST
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The journo probably misread "several" for "seven", in the Executive Summary (pdf!):

Conclusion

The major result from this analysis is that world oil production has peaked in 2006. Production will start to decline at a rate of several percent per year. By 2020, and even more by 2030, global oil supply will be dramatically lower. This will create a supply gap which can hardly be closed by growing contributions from other fossil, nuclear or alternative energy sources in this time frame.



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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 08:27:42 AM EST
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