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Libertarians are existentially deranged.  They refuse to cognize things can, and do, change when lots and lots of individual actors decide to alter their behavior.  This change has been called many names: Catastrophe, phase transition, tipping point, punctuated equilibrium.  The various names indicating the diverse and widespread actuality of the phenomena.
by ATinNM on Sun Oct 21st, 2007 at 09:51:35 PM EST
These fools have been unable to deal with the concept of aggregate activity being disastrous even with rational or near-rational behavior at the individual level for the better part of thirty years.  Why would they get it right on this?

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 07:40:47 AM EST
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basic games-theory notion of "smart for one, dumb for all" has been understood for a lot longer than thirty years...

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...
by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 06:30:40 PM EST
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for example the many historical cases in which passengers on a crowded shallow-draught vessel have rushed to one side of the boat, each individual person making a perfectly rational self-interested attempt to get a better view of an interesting sight, or to escape some real or imagined peril...  whereupon the combined weight of the people massing on one side of centreline caused the vessel to capsize, killing all or nearly all of the passengers and crew.  still happens periodically in lower tech maritime areas.

smart for one, dumb (and lethal) for all.

consider the biosphere as a ferry, the Western Industrial Way of Life as an entrancing pier and amusement park off the starboard side, and watch enough passengers trample and bite and swarm their way to stbd for a place at the rail or a chance to be first ashore...

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 06:38:59 PM EST
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As long as they are doing that those of us on the port side helping each other into and lowering lifeboats will have a greater chance of success.  
by ATinNM on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 09:10:12 PM EST
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although you know they will be the first ones there, wearing a dress and yelling "Women and children first"

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 09:22:19 PM EST
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actually in a capsize no one's in a guaranteed advantageous position: the "high side" as it goes over may be more lethal than the low side, depending on how fast it rolls and how you fall, dive, or get flung.

cheery thought for the day.

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 09:40:19 PM EST
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Oh, I know.  I'm was speaking to the issue as it relates to business cycles, post-Lucas.

But you're, of course, right that the basic premise has been around much longer.  Just taking the environment, they've been wrong for as long as they've existed.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 at 07:28:44 AM EST
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business cycles, post-Lucas

Please elaborate.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Oct 29th, 2007 at 05:32:22 PM EST
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