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Hmm, I ride the Metro every day.  We seem to be a pretty happy lot at reasonable hours (but, granted, not at 4.30 in the morning), although that probably has a great deal to do with the fact that the route I'm on gives us a clear view of the poor bastards in their shiny, new, mortgage-backed SUVs stuck on 395 coming in from outside the Beltway.  (The housing crash out in the suburbs makes it doubly entertaining.)

Plus, we're all federal workers, so we ride for free.  $3/gallon gas?  Not so much.  Let it go to $10 and bankrupt half the city for all I care.

I'm not sure Metro riders are a good barometer.  They're, I'd bet, more likely to be the ones who weren't so stupid that they borrowed up to their necks during the liquidity flood.  They are, after all, the ones with the brainpower necessary to see that only raving lunatics drive in DC.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 at 08:16:50 AM EST
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Drew, for some reason I didn't realize you were in DC, I thought you were still in Florida.  If I'd known that, I would have dropped you a line when I was in town this summer. :-(

Hmmmm, sounds like the Yellow Line, sah?

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 at 08:40:54 AM EST
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Aw, that's too bad.  I owe you a bottle of wine, if I remember correctly.  Indeed, I escaped Florida quite some time ago, although I'd seriously think about returning (North Florida especially) if the opportunity presented itself.

Yep, Yellow Line from Huntington, where members of the Cocktail Circuit dare not venture.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 at 08:48:17 AM EST
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You do?  Crap, if I'd remembered that, I would definitely have called. ;-b

I should be back for a while in a couple of months.  We can give it a shot then, if you haven't fled for warmer climes....

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 at 09:13:07 AM EST
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Warmer climates?  I think the low yesterday was three hundred thousand degrees Fahrenheit.  This damned city makes Miami feel like Anchorage.  I'm seriously thinking about Norway's Arctic coast after living here.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Oct 24th, 2007 at 07:42:20 AM EST
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But, yes, if the omnipotent idiocy hasn't driven me out by then, -- I'm hoping to at least stick around, popcorn in hand, to watch these pricks fry in the housing collapse -- let me know when you're here.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Oct 24th, 2007 at 07:45:04 AM EST
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Maybe we need this to be updated ?

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 at 08:53:55 AM EST
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Tried the link twice, over a two hour period--does not work. Whazzat?

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 at 11:53:45 AM EST
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A map of ET users, started in this thread. A bit outdated I'd guess.

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 at 04:48:11 PM EST
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Have you read this essay The Martini and Maggot Guide to Politics? Your commuter comment to me is a poignant reminder.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by MarketTrustee (pbing@estudioinc.com) on Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 at 01:12:47 PM EST
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Gah, I posted my reply to you as a reply to LEP, Trustee.  It's down a few.  I enjoyed the diary.  Thanks.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Oct 24th, 2007 at 07:46:54 AM EST
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I usually arrive at Dulles and take the train from West Falls Church downtown. That line is where I get my first impressions. This time, however, I'm  arriving at downtown National so my study will be somewhat flawed. But I will be doing a lot of metro riding from downtown to Maryland and back. If the moods of subway riders accurately reflected current day politics, everyone should be very depressed. When I was there last time there was some hope that the Democrats would do something with their newly gained power. There is no longer much hope on that front.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 at 04:37:09 PM EST
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That was one of the most brilliant description of DC's political economy I've ever read.  It's not quite that simple, though.  To be sure, there exists an aristocratic gang in DC; and, yes, they all live in and around Georgetown -- once a wonderful area, and now nothing but ugly, over-priced clothing stores and shitty restaurants.

I think he's more wrong than right about Alexandria and Chevy Chase, although I have very little experience with the latter.  Those are largely middle-class areas pumped up by a ton of investment designed to grab aristocrat dollars from the District.  Incomes are high in both ($60-70k median as I recall), but prices are sky-high and the incomes are nowhere near what you'd find in Georgetown, where studio apartments sell at close to seven figures.  (Seven figures, even by the ridiculously small standards of Washington, buys a hell of a lot of house in Alexandria.)  Alexandria is more a college-student and young-professional kind of area, with some older natives -- blue- and white-collars who managed to get on the property ladder before the DC market took off into the stratosphere -- sprinkled in.  Chevy Chase is a bit older, but similar from what little I've seen.  The possible exception is Old Town (the area that everyone thinks of immediately when Alexandria is mentioned even though it's such a small chunk of the city), which is unbelievably wealthy.

I'd disagree about the Northwest suburbs of Baltimore.  They're cheaper than DC because of the fact that it's Baltimore -- DC's crackwhore sister.  It wreaks of rotten fish and, whenever I've visited, it's been nearly impossible to see through the smog across Inner Harbor (all one or two hundred yards of it).  Unemployment and crime are sky-high.  (I'd still take it over Georgetown, though.)

It really is just the area in and around Georgetown that captures the aristocratic element.  The Washington Cocktail Circuit area.  Those who live in the District outside of that area are generally hoping to get there.  Those of us who don't live in the District love to mock it, being unimpressed by the hoighty-toighty garbage it's all about.  It's essentially London, for three times the price and no personality.

I love the last paragraph, and especially the last line.  Amen.  I hate martinis, and I'll be God-damned if I'm paying a million bucks for some shitcan condo.  Guinness and grungy apartment for me any day.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Oct 24th, 2007 at 07:36:54 AM EST
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The commuters from the Orange line out at West Falls and Vienna would likely be depressed.  That's Ground Zero on the housing market.  It's all dependent upon where in DC you are.  The Green and Yellow lines -- the Prole lines -- will be happy.  The Red Line will be depressed, with all the once-"rich" Maryland residents having seen their wealth evaporate over the last year.  The Blue and Orange lines will be mixed, depending on which end of them you're on (Maryland happy, Virginia sad).

That's the economic side.  The political side is all-depressed, since the West-of-the-Park crowd (only area where you'll really find Republicans) doesn't ride the subway.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Oct 24th, 2007 at 07:53:31 AM EST
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