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FWIW, this photo was on the cover of Tariq Ali's Bush in Babylon.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 09:14:15 AM EST
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ok, either the photographer was extremely lucky and causgt theliquid just as it hit the helmet, orwhere is the splash of impact? youd expect at least some splashes of light from the droplets as they bounced from the helmets surface.

Secondlygo out and spray liquid in an arc like that, and you'll see that it breaks up into globules very quickly after leaving the  nozzle, the smaller the flow the larger the gap between the packets of fluid too, yet the liquid seems to be describing a complete arc.

the kids shorts/penis/elbow are mighty suspicious too.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 09:25:58 AM EST
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I'll have to look for a copy of the book in a bookshop and look at the cover photo credits.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 09:57:40 AM EST
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It's hard to tell on a low-res copy - usually you can blow up the image and look for fringing around the joins.

What makes me think it's at least plausible is that there are no obvious fringes around the kid's hair - cutting and pasting hair is always interesting in Photoshop - and the light looks believable. Often when you try to montage two scenes they're lit from completely different angles, and which doesn't seem to be true here.

Then again you're right about the splashes, and the aim is possibly a little too perfect.

So I'd say it's open - could be either.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 12:46:20 PM EST
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I was thinking that the kid and the soldier were part of the original photo, which would cut the hair fringing problems out, just the penis and urine would have been added.

The sheer accuracy of hitting  the centre of the helmet is a bit dubious though I agree

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 12:51:32 PM EST
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would also think he'd have to pull his pants down just a bit further... but at any rate, how long would it take for the soldier to notice that it was raining on a very limited area?
by borkitekt on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 03:14:22 PM EST
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You know it's very possible to do hair and make it  look good in Photoshop, especially at this level of resolution, but I agree that the boy may have been there all along. The penis and stream look faked. I can't see the soldier sitting there so calmly. I say this was faked without any real intent to deceive. The point was made and that's what it's all about.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 10:18:05 PM EST
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I say this was faked without any real intent to deceive. The point was made and that's what it's all about.

Thank got someone gets it. It just does not matter.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 04:26:44 AM EST
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