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That's gorgeous. I keep meaning to try shooting some landscapes for B&W but always forget.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 6th, 2007 at 03:48:01 PM EST
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Thank you, glad you like it. It's a bit prettier than my normal stuff, but hey, I was on hols, so reckon I'm allowed to take snaps!
If you shoot in colour on digital, then convert, you very soon learn all about the previsualisations of Walker Evans and Ansel Adams, and the importance of seeing where the image CAN go. Ansel was originally trained as a concert pianist. He is quoted as saying that B/W printing is just like playing a piece; the negative is just the score, it is up to you to turn it from a so-so rendering into a virtuoso performance.
What you are seeing here is mere chopsticks compared to his stuff.

:)

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f8; and be there...

by Nigel CheffersHeard (nigelch(at)cheffers(dot)co(dot)uk) on Sat Oct 6th, 2007 at 04:06:10 PM EST
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I agree with that sort of approach - and like to go further in terms of reworking an image and create photomontages. There is a whole world of possibilities AFTER the photo is taken. So I tend to agree with this writer that Carier-Bresson's approach to cropping (never do it), though laudable in principle (if you can get the framing right, fine) was a bit "rigid":

This all makes obvious one of the conceits of Cartier Bresson's work. He never cropped an image. Every single photograph is a full 35mm frame just as it came from one of his Leicas.

I spent a fascinating few hours with the book looking at hundreds of images, seeing which ones might (to my eye at least) benefit from cropping. Remarkably few, and therein lies part of Cartier Bresson's genius. Within the confines of the 3:2 aspect ratio of the 35mm frame, and working spontaneously with millisecond timing, Cartier Bresson was able to not only see and capture the decisive moment, but to do so while neither excluding anything vital nor including anything extraneous.

I don't hold up this disciplined (if not indeed rigid) approach to framing as being virtuous. In fact I avoid it in my own work, believing that each image wants to have its own unique aspect ratio, regardless of what some manufacturer 75 years ago decided should be the relative height and width of the frame.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/bresson.shtml

With more time to reflect on the image, some cropping is often better (for us lesser mortals anyway), just as Adams, while a master of exposure (no, not that kind :-)), reworked the tones in printing.

A link back to general concerns in Eurotrib:

An environmentalist, Adams capitalized on his fame to lobby Presidents Lyndon Johnson, Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter for better conservation policies.

"They felt they were in the presence of someone who wasn't interested in advancing himself, who wasn't interested in getting elected to something -- someone who simply loved America and loved the American wilderness," said Turnage, who accompanied Adams to visit Ford at the White House in 1975.

Adams' motive, behind his political activism and his work, was simply a love of the beauty around him, according to friends.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TRAVEL/07/12/adams.show/index.html



Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2007 at 09:30:59 AM EST
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Blimey, few good thoughts there.
1) The Cartier-Bresson cropping thing: Since I have been at this a good few years, I have simply got better and better at framing my shots at the taking stage. This was pretty necessary before autofocus zooms, which make it much easier. I used to work close in with a 35mm f2 lens, and after a while you can see the frame in your mind's eye before you begin to lift the camera. If you spend a large amount of time practising any technique, you will get pretty good, given enough time. Although I have zooms, my favourite lens for this now  is a 35mm f1.4, which allows me to work in very low light and get spectacular differential focus. BUT, you can, of course, shoot rubbish with this lens just like you can with any other...
As for Ansel, he is a true hero not just for his photography, but for his environmental work. I hope I can produce one picture in my lifetime as good as his Mt Williamson, my all time favourite.
The pic above is slightly cropped top and bottom to emphasise the panoramic effect. crude, but effective, je pense...

f8; and be there...
by Nigel CheffersHeard (nigelch(at)cheffers(dot)co(dot)uk) on Mon Oct 8th, 2007 at 03:15:56 PM EST
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I do hope you meant "A few good thoughts" :-)

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Oct 10th, 2007 at 02:22:55 PM EST
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