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Rescue us from whom? The problem is precisely that the European security apparatus is entirely predicated around depending on the US and is subordinate to US interests, not European ones.

The trans-atlantic link is responsible for that and the US has actively campaigned to keep it that way.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Nov 13th, 2007 at 04:02:09 AM EST
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We do have the EU Battlegroup (kampfgruppe!) stuff going on, but that is the sole light in the valley of the shadow of death which is EU security policy.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Tue Nov 13th, 2007 at 08:34:42 AM EST
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And still, that is an expeditionary thing, not something which has to do with security of Europe except indirectly.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Tue Nov 13th, 2007 at 08:35:39 AM EST
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And what does NATO have to do with the security of Europe directly?

It boggles the mind that the EU Member states think an EU Common Foreign and Security Policy worth its name, and a proper European Defence Agency, are a threat to their sovereignty, but that NATO where they do what the US says is not.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 13th, 2007 at 08:45:18 AM EST
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I have no problem at all, really, with an EU Common Foreign and Security Policy worth its name and a proper European Defence Agency, even though I can't see much use in the second as we already have NATO.

NATO exists. NATO works. Why change something that works and replace it with something that might not?

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Tue Nov 13th, 2007 at 08:53:11 AM EST
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NATO works? For what value of "works"?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Nov 13th, 2007 at 09:15:31 AM EST
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By providing a definite security guarantee and a common command & control structure?

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Tue Nov 13th, 2007 at 09:27:43 AM EST
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