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Well you have expressed your views on the EU fairly vehemently ;-)

But I still think the Lisbon Declaration was a 'good thing', and that the failed promise to implement its aims is regrettable.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Nov 12th, 2007 at 12:09:23 PM EST
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Well, the concern being voiced here is that this is a PR exercise, moving the goalposts so that the EU can claim it has achieved the goals it merked for itself in 2010. That's what I was referring to when I said "if this is what the EU is trying to do".

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Nov 12th, 2007 at 01:03:21 PM EST
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My misunderstanding.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Nov 12th, 2007 at 01:49:00 PM EST
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I don't think they are. Note that they don't have Al Gore on the list of speakers :-)

(These kinds of conferences don't get that much media attention, really)

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Mon Nov 12th, 2007 at 01:58:54 PM EST
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At least this brief conversation lead me to the guy's writing who the Lisbon Agenda (or whatever it is called) was based upon: Joseph Alois Schumpeter (February 8, 1883 - January 8, 1950). Austrian chappie played by Peter Lorre in the movie '"Über die matematische Methode der theoretischen Ökonomie". The new Director's Final CutDVD is just out. Fellow called Read all about him here.

Schumpeter and democratic theory

In the same book, Schumpeter expounded a theory of democracy which sought to challenge what he called the 'classical doctrine'. He disputed the idea that democracy was a process by which the electorate identified the common good, and politicians carried this out for them. He argued this was unrealistic, and that people's ignorance and superficiality meant that in fact they were largely manipulated by politicians, who set the agenda. This made a 'rule by the people' concept both unlikely and undesirable. Instead he advocated a minimalist model, much influenced by Max Weber, whereby democracy is the mechanism for competition between leaders, much like a market structure. Although periodical votes from the general public legitimize governments and keep them accountable, the policy program is very much seen as their own and not that of the people, and the participatory role for individuals is severely limited.



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by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Nov 12th, 2007 at 02:03:28 PM EST
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Someone is doing something...

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by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Nov 12th, 2007 at 02:20:42 PM EST
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