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And it's only £20.00 to set one up, not £120!
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Nov 26th, 2007 at 06:10:30 AM EST
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If it takes three, count me in for £6.67.  I would most definitely enjoy having "Founder member of Milo Minderbinder LLP" on my CV.

Seriously, though, Chris, if that's all it takes I'll post you a twenty tonight--if you can get it created.  Then, once it exists, all conversations become more...intriguingly realisable.

If there are only three of us, but nevertheless MMM LLP exists, then I would be motivated to hunt through ET for a potential "first book" project, a slim volume (no more than 100 pages is what I'm thinking). agreed as per the diary above, only with all the complications included...

The high humour I espy (in the HST sense) is that many potential readers (e.g. of Migeru's collaborative book...if he and his collaborators are willing to work with MMM LLP of course...or even become members...and why should they?  [I don't know, of course--but with an "actually existing" MMM LLP...heh...])...yes, many potential buyers of MMM LLP products won't have the first idea who Milo Minderbinder is; and those that do should see that "wry" is the word...

So, I'm in for start up cash--can we find a third party to get bring MMM LLP to life?  (Paul I hope!  But are there others?  If we are five, then starting costs drop to £4; ten and it's £2 each...and then the LLP will exist and its various (strange!) businesses (the new way--future model!  Etc...) can begin.

(For the heavily serious among us, I would imagine investments in Renewable Energy projects of various types would be front-runners for MMM LLP resources)

(and, hey, seeing as how I'm painting the picture instead of you, I was thinking of maybe charging a fee of £6.68, but I'll leave that to you to decide, Chris!  Heh!  Hope you is enjoying...)

(The part I would find most humorous is if/when MMM LLP started generating 4-6% all over the place, building and growing in strange and wonderful ways...  But I would like to see a big discussion about that 4-6% part as that's an area I really know nothing at all about...anyways, ...heh...it's a slow morning at work...I could be hunting up books from the ET archive, but...I need collaboration, I need a workers'...council...co-operative...hmmm...

116.

[The] actual existence [of workers' councils] has as yet been no more than a brief sketch, quickly opposed and defeated by various defensive forces of class society, among which their own false consciousness must often be included. Pannekoek rightly insisted that choosing the power of workers' Councils "poses problems" rather than providing a solution. Yet it is precisely in this power where the problems of the proletarian revolution can find their real solution. This is where the objective conditions of historical consciousness are reunited. This is where direct active communication is realized, where specialization, hierarchy and separation end, where the existing conditions have been transformed "into conditions of unity." Here the proletarian subject can emerge from her or his struggle against con- templation: his or her consciousness is equal to the practical organization which it undertakes because this consciousness is itself inseparable from coherent intervention in history.

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm

Leur existence effective n'a encore été qu'une brève ébauche, aussitôt combattue et vaincue par différentes forces de défense de la société de classes, parmi lesquelles il faut souvent compter leur propre fausse conscience. Pannekock insistait justement sur le fait que le choix d'un pouvoir des Conseils ouvriers «propose des problèmes» plutôt qu'il n'apporte une solution. Mais ce pouvoir est précisément le lieu où les problèmes de la révolution du prolétariat peuvent trouver leur vraie solution. C'est le lieu où les conditions objectives de la conscience historique sont réunies ; la réalisation de la communication directe active, où finissent la spécialisation, la hiérarchie et la séparation, où les conditions existantes ont été transformées «en condition d'unité». Ici le sujet prolétarien peut émerger de sa lutte contre la contemplation : sa conscience est gale à l'organisation pratique qu'elle s'est donnée, car cette conscience même est inséparable de l'intervention cohérente dans l'histoire.

http://sami.is.free.fr/Oeuvres/debord_societe_spectacle_1.html

(My emphasis--because maybe I have the soul of a prole)

And (as Workers' Councils figured largely in DoDo's excellent history of The Hungarian Revolution) I see the DoDo book project as most realisable by the LLP, certainly as a wonderful introduction--indeed, "An Introduction To..." could be an over-arching concept for the first set of books....etc...etc... (like I said, it's a slow day at work...)

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Mon Nov 26th, 2007 at 07:03:09 AM EST
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