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  1.  I know I am totally derailing ... hahaha ... your diary, but can you at least acknowledge that there is stigma attached to being labeled Eastern?  We can differentiate between East Bloc and Eastern Europe, but both entities were/are defined in oppostition to the (civilized, modern, humane, rational, etc.) West.  Meaning the not ever Communist part of Europe plus North America.  FWIW, I don't remember the term "East Bloc" being used here much either, in my lifetime, but when it was, you can bet people were not talking about Asia, whatever the official definition was.  

  2.  It's kids!  Running the trains!  It's mad!  ;)


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by poemless on Mon Nov 26th, 2007 at 04:28:03 PM EST
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Eastern Block not being used, hmm, my Granny called it SBZ, while I was studiying in Leipzig after the reunification.

SBZ Sowjetisch besetzte Zone. Soviet occupied zone. The name the GDR had, before it became GDR in 1949.

And on another note, while it was not necessarily compulsory to be a member of the Young Pioneers in the GDR, it entirely depend on local circumstances and it also changed fundamentally over time. Until 1954/55 a parallel education of Christian and Atheist youth indoctrination (aehem) took place. After that it was made "compulsory".

This gives a reasonable summary (in Engish)

Actually not reasonable, no, very good, (It quotes one of my favourite Professors....)

by PeWi on Tue Nov 27th, 2007 at 08:55:59 AM EST
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SBZ Sowjetisch besetzte Zone. Soviet occupied zone. The name the GDR had

Including the Soviet Union itself?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Nov 27th, 2007 at 09:02:29 AM EST
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As you know Germany was divided in four parts after 1945?

and those Zones were called ABZ, BBZ, FBZ and SBZ.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Besatzungszone

When the German states became 'independant states' in 1949 those names were 'officially' dropped, but not by some people...

by PeWi on Tue Nov 27th, 2007 at 11:48:41 AM EST
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I do know those occupation zones, as well as Bizonia and Trizonia, but the question is, did your Granny also apply the term SBZ for all Warshaw Pact countries collectively (e.g. as another synonym for Eastern Block = Ostblock)?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Nov 27th, 2007 at 02:17:30 PM EST
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Frankly I was confused about your question. And am glad that of course you knew the term, hope I did not cause offense.

And no, she only applied it to the GDR - interesting thought though.

by PeWi on Tue Nov 27th, 2007 at 08:01:19 PM EST
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