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No, it's having a  free-market economy like Norway.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Nov 28th, 2007 at 04:59:05 AM EST
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Norway has a free market economy. It also has redistributive policies to prevent the rise of feudalism.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Nov 28th, 2007 at 05:57:28 AM EST
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Their attitude to social justice/ inequality/ redistribution is part of it.

But there's also the Norwegian attitude to land ownership and use, which is one of the principal issues they have with the EU's approach to property ownership and the free market.

Norwegians fundamentally do not allow "absentee" landlordism - although it has gradually been insinuated as the "Anglo Disease" has crept in.

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2007 at 06:56:02 AM EST
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Seems odd to me. The EU does very little in the area of private law such as land ownership. It's a mistake to think that a country could not have its own policies in that area. Such as setting limits to the amount of land that can be owned, or ownership of land without presence on the land. The only thing the EU would demand is that the legislation does not discriminate between Norwegians and EU citizens.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Nov 28th, 2007 at 11:51:24 AM EST
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The Norwegian 'Odelsrett' does discriminate against EU citizens, and against ordinary Norwegian citizens for that matter.

Odelsrett - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Odelsrett is an ancient Scandinavian allodial title which has survived in Norway as odelsrett

This law has been an important building block on which a stable and thriving farming community has been instrumental in sustaining local communities all over the country.    

by Solveig (link2ageataol.com) on Wed Nov 28th, 2007 at 02:21:12 PM EST
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If you'd just reverse the way this is done - make the Odelsrett a standard clause in a contract, instead of a customary right, and presto! you have entered contractual freedom bliss - I don't see how the EU could do anything against it. There are many ways in the law to get to the same result.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Nov 28th, 2007 at 02:30:53 PM EST
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Well, that's not a million miles away from my thesis that a "consensual" - partnership-based and "two -way" - legal protocol can assimilate any national jurisdiction and their "one way" imposed "Law" and "Equity", simply by reference in the agreement.

That is why I regard partnership-based "Open Corporate" (eg UK LLP) agreements as a form of "Legal XML" capable of linking disparate jurisdictions and legal persons in the same way that XML links disparate hardware and software.

The Semantic Web: Law is Code.

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2007 at 02:51:53 PM EST
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Those are very interesting links!

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Nov 28th, 2007 at 02:32:45 PM EST
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Thank you...

These old Viking laws are still FUNDAMENTAL to the Norwegian way of life, and no EU law should be allowed to 'dilute' them, IMO.

It may be a better EU if they adopted them...;-)

And by the way, they also apply in Orkney and Shetland as Udal title...

by Solveig (link2ageataol.com) on Wed Nov 28th, 2007 at 02:43:28 PM EST
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I also agree abut the climate's influence on how societies develop. In the boreal area, for all animals including humans, there is always an energy balance - if you expend more energy getting food than you get from the food itself, then in the winter, you're dead.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Nov 28th, 2007 at 03:07:17 PM EST
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A fuller explanation and discussion of these laws is worth a diary.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Nov 28th, 2007 at 03:10:40 PM EST
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I know...a diary has been 'brewing' in my head for a while...provoked, perhaps, by the rather 'Central European view of the world' which is often expressed on ET.  

I would suggest that a better understanding of how societies have developed in the Nordic countries may give food for thought to the (still, IMO) Empire building attitudes of the larger EU countries.    

Maybe I should sit down one day...

by Solveig (link2ageataol.com) on Wed Nov 28th, 2007 at 03:31:07 PM EST
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