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Oh, I don't know - no make-up at all is rather beautiful.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 29th, 2007 at 12:25:11 PM EST
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I agree.

I think that nothing is uglier than a woman who trys to prissy up too much with makeup.  

Maybe it's just me.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2007 at 12:55:30 PM EST
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Nope, not just you.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2007 at 02:24:56 PM EST
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there is a real problem that, the women who can wear most makeup well, are the young kids who need least.

elder women are easily tempted to over make up cos, well, frankly we need it. It requires discipline and skill to get it right. I have neither and generally have abandoned the effort. No makeup is easier, even if I'd love to splash the slap.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 29th, 2007 at 02:48:34 PM EST
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Women don't wear makeup for men.

Also, you may not be aware that your comment comes across as precisely the kind of unenlightened sentiment you imagine you are above.  As a woman, I hope men find me physically attractive, but if I'm to be judged as "ugly", I want it to be for something other than my face.  

There are many ugly people in the world, men and women, and the fact rarely ... no ... never has anything to do with their physical appearance.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Thu Nov 29th, 2007 at 03:02:14 PM EST
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Also, you may not be aware that your comment comes across as precisely the kind of unenlightened sentiment you imagine you are above.  As a woman, I hope men find me physically attractive, but if I'm to be judged as "ugly", I want it to be for something other than my face.

That's the point.  It is something other than your face.  It's about being pretentious and feeling the need to put on large amounts of makeup like that changes anything about who you are.  The makeup isn't the problem, its why women go about putting on the makeup that's the problem.  In your case this clearly isn't a problem.

You said:

Women don't wear makeup for men.

The problem is that men are constantly told that women wear makeup and uncomfortable shoes in order to make an impression on men, and guilted for it.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2007 at 03:32:25 PM EST
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Women don't wear makeup for men.

Could that be why I dislike it? :-)

Not so simple. Just as I dislike the games men play to gain acceptance and status (and that are directed towards  other men).

Nothing uglier than... isn't really my feeling, though. I took it MfM's point was the contrast with the supposed beautifying effect.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2007 at 04:28:23 PM EST
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Speaking for myself (I'm hardly qualified to speak for an entire race, gender, any group, really), I wore make-up for men, back in the day.  When I attended women-only events, it was always an opportunity not to bother with the make-up.  And even in most mixed-gender situations, I used very little.  But it was always the women who picked on me for not wearing it.

Since I hit my 30's, decades ago, and especially since it's so common for women to go without makeup in Austin, it's a really rare event now, mostly having to do with making eyebrows appear on my face.  My husband's into inner beauty, but married me anyway (he's European though, so maybe that's why.)

My daughter's a masseuse who's urging me to do yoga.  I'll get there.  Thanks to Fran for the video.

Karen

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher

by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2007 at 10:38:13 PM EST
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You seem to have a very wise daughter - I would listen to her. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 at 12:54:24 AM EST
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And you also seem to have a smart husband!!!! :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 at 01:04:41 AM EST
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