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Net Present Value is not a bad idea until you realise that the discount rate is wholly arbitrary.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 6th, 2007 at 06:33:19 AM EST
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It's not arbitrary. It's a rational market assessment, and not bad fortune telling at all.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Nov 6th, 2007 at 08:24:25 AM EST
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Umm, no. The "discount rate" includes things like the "required rate of return" which depends on nothing else but the greed of the investors.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 6th, 2007 at 08:27:14 AM EST
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Indeed.

Hence 'rational market assessment.'

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Nov 6th, 2007 at 09:33:49 AM EST
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Now you're being facetious :-)

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 6th, 2007 at 09:36:07 AM EST
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The worst problem with the discount rate (from a financial perspective), is that it is simply pulled out of the yield curve. It's a poll, like all implicit market observables. Take thousands of educated traders and observe their crowd behavior: you get idiot forecast, because the IQ of a crowd goes like the inverse of its size, regardless of the IQ distribution of its individuals.

On the particular of the yield curve, the only part where some serious forecasting gets into it is IMHO the first 5 years, because all traders are short sighted. If actual sensible inflation trends over 20/30 years were priced in, long term rates should be 40% and the states would quickly rediscover the virtue of balanced budgets.

As to what this would do to the markets, well they would get even more greedy and short-termist actually, because the tail-end of future cash flows would be totally worthless. But at least the greediest would exit the home mortgage market since it's very long duration.

Pierre

by Pierre on Tue Nov 6th, 2007 at 10:22:29 AM EST
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