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One question: what does the U.S. export nowadays? Corn, wheat, and apples; entertainment; software and computer chips; airplanes; logging and earthmoving equipment; weapons for sure. Other than that, I don't know.

The statement was hyperbole, but it doesn't feel like we make anything by comparison with the industrial pulse that I "enjoyed" in my career. Probably a good thing in many ways, including environmental impact; but there are several serious problems with our current industrial base: 1) the U.S. physical infrastructure is decrepit with no motivation to refurbish as a function of the production and the sales needs of a strong industrial base. 2) The vast quantity of imports (things that we do not make) means that the transportation costs - read fuel requirements - are enormous. 3) Productive activities often require and fund R&D - read innovation and discovery. 4) Real unemployment (not just the people receiving unemployment insurance) and poverty are substantially higher now due to decrease in domestic industries.

Of course, you are correct that we still make things in the U.S.

paul spencer

by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Tue Nov 6th, 2007 at 01:12:53 PM EST
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We export a lot of high value items along with the agricultural products. The problem isn't the export dollar value, the problem is that the employment profile of the export industries won't support the middle class in the way it used to. That is absolutely a real problem, but that reality is masked by hyperbolic statements about how "the US no longer makes anything."

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Nov 6th, 2007 at 01:23:25 PM EST
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We've had the discussion any number of times as it fits into the "anglo disease" thread that has been going here for some time. Increasing productivity reduces the need for labor. The resulting gains are being funneled upwards rather than redistributed to all. We should all be working 20 hours a week, instead, roughly half of us are working too much, half are underemployed, and too much of the profit is going straight to the top.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Nov 6th, 2007 at 01:28:12 PM EST
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CIA - The World Factbook -- United States
agricultural products (soybeans, fruit, corn) 9.2%, industrial supplies (organic chemicals) 26.8%, capital goods (transistors, aircraft, motor vehicle parts, computers, telecommunications equipment) 49.0%, consumer goods (automobiles, medicines) 15.0% (2003)


We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 6th, 2007 at 06:24:46 PM EST
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