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The demand curve measures what happens to the price if there is a shift in supply and the supply curve what happens if there is a shift in demand :-)
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 02:27:13 PM EST
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The curves don't measure anything: they express relationships. How are the relationships measured so they can be expressed by curves?

When people talk of a "shift" in demand or supply they normally refer to a movement of the whole curve. So half the time "demand" refers to the whole "demand curve" and the rest of the time it refers to a quantity (apparently, to "consumption"). Similarly Supply" can refer to "supply curve" or to "production".

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 04:06:07 PM EST
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The curves are part of a model, the model expresses idealised relationships. How these are measured seems to be an empirical question?
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 05:00:10 PM EST
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Empirical questions seem to fall outside economics.

The point is, of the model only the intersection of the curves, that is, the clearing price and the production = supply = demand = consumption are observable.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 05:07:29 PM EST
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Yes, and it is important to distinguish a theoretical construct intended to predict patterns of results, from a predictive scheme that gathers and crunches data, outputting numbers and dates. To be a falsifiable scientific theory, the former need only predict what patterns of behavior may occur (or equivalently, what patterns won't occur).

The idea that economic theory is necessarily about prediction, like celestial mechanics applied to planets, is the source of much confusion. "Economists can't predict recessions, so what do they know?" The answer is that, in principle, they could know a lot, yet never predict a price or an economic fluctuation.

That economists commonly think they know many things that aren't actually true is a different issue.

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by technopolitical on Sun Nov 11th, 2007 at 02:34:49 PM EST
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Forget about prediction. If the demand and supply curves cannot be observed the theory doesn't even describe what is observed.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 11th, 2007 at 04:27:41 PM EST
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