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Jake, I do not know what you consider miraculous outcomes of meditation. I do not know Transcendental meditation, however, I do know about other forms of meditation. Btw. I teach meditation, but have no desire whatsoever to sale it to you or prove anything.

I do not need scientific prove, I get all the prove I need from my own experience and from what I see and hear from my students. Sometimes it does seem miraculous - but I also admit, not everbody has that experience. Not everybody has the patience and discipline to pull it through until they get an effect. Meditation is work, which I consider worthwhile for myself.

Chopra is not synonymous with meditation for me. All those philosophies are not needed if you practice it regularely.

Oh, and I am a great friend of the placebo effect - isn't it wonderful that believe can effect such a change and even without the negative side-effects.

If you really want prove about meditation, there is only one way - do-it-yourself. Noone can prove it to you, it is something you have to experience yourself and you might end up dismissing it. Thats fine too. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Dec 25th, 2007 at 04:26:13 PM EST
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I'm sorry that you got the impression that I was knocking on meditation. I wasn't. I'm pretty sure that it can have some kind of utility, if nothing else then as a psychologically acceptable way to de-stress in a culture where simply taking ten minutes off is considered a moral failing (that as well is an interesting subject but for another time). What I objected to - and continue to object to - is all the metaphysical claptrap that some people seem to enjoy imbuing it with.

Oh, and I also like the placebo effect, although I have some ethical qualms about employing it in medical practise (since it would involve lying to your patients by claiming that you're giving them medicine when in fact you're giving them placebo). And if I get cancer, I'll go with the chemo rather than the homeopathic remedies magic water...

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Dec 25th, 2007 at 05:07:10 PM EST
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