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- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Dec 23rd, 2007 at 11:53:45 PM EST
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You 'have an open mind' to preemptive ridicule?  That´s not very scientific, Jake, so I hope you can see my view from other posts.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Mon Dec 24th, 2007 at 08:52:54 AM EST
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Unfortunately I can't see your point of view, because it seems to be too poorly formed to be rigorously evaluated. From what little I have been able to parse from you and your references, it looks like a lot of confused magical thinking written in an extremely non-standard version of English. This assessment may be unkind, of course, and I'm prepared to be proven wrong. But I don't think I will be.

Furthermore, I take severe exception to the insinuation that I have dismissed and ridiculed your ideas based solely on my own ill-founded prejudice. This new-age bunkum has had more than a fair hearing here, and (as usual, I might note) its apologists have presented nothing new whatsoever. Lots of martyr complex, lots of hazy allusions to magical spirits, lots of putting words in people's mouths, but zero substance.

I ask for an explanation of what Chopra says that makes sense, and I get a laundry list of crankery and quackery. I ask for a falsifiable hypothesis and a means to test it experimentally, and I'm told to go pray and report back to my local priest. I ask for an explanation what some new-age advocates that you linked to approvingly are saying - because they don't seem to be using the same version of English that I am, and the request is ignored.

I then conclude - after giving what you have to say a treatment that is entirely too unprejudiced and open-minded considering the number and severity of crank-indicators in the opening posts in this conversation - that you have nothing to say that I've not heard from every other freaking crank I've ever met on the 'net (and several I've met in real life). From young-earth creationists through 9/11 troofers to postmodernists.

You then have the gall to tell me that I am employing 'pre-emptive ridicule' and being unscientific. I like to think that I have a thickish skin, but unfounded, juvenile accusations against my intellectual honesty are not on the list of abuses that I am prepared to let pass without comment!

Having noted this for the record, we can now return to our regularly scheduled friendly-if-somewhat-snarky progressive blogging.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Dec 25th, 2007 at 02:57:17 PM EST
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English is not the first language for the majority of us on the site, so some slack should be given on that particular front - and, in fact, specific effort should be made to investigate whether what appears to be an insult or a mysterious turn of phrase may just be imperfect mastery of ther language.

There are many "non-standard" version of English on ET, so this is not a fair point to criticise as such.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Dec 25th, 2007 at 06:05:21 PM EST
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Point taken.

However, there's gibberish that's gibberish because of poor grasp of language and then there's gibberish that's gibberish because of poor grasp of the underlying concepts. I'm less forgiving of the latter than I am of the former, and I get the distinct impression that that's what we're dealing with here.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Dec 25th, 2007 at 06:15:47 PM EST
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Jake, you're quite a character.

Thanks for all your efforts on this blog of serving what you cherish.

Keep up the good work.

Kind regards,

Emil

by emilmoller (emil@beyondthewalls.eu) on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 03:07:14 PM EST
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