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...and strangely enough, I think that many of the defenders of Science may be fanatic in their defence of it because they are in doubt that another explanation, based upon another hypothesis, may in fact reduce their intellectual castles to their inadequate metaphysical foundations...

There are so many things that are wrong with that paragraph...

First, none of the pro-science people around here can be described as 'fanatical' by any stretch of the imagination. 'Exasperated' would be closer to home.

Second, I have no 'intellectual castle' to defend. I do, however, think that words should have meaning and that empirical reality should not simply be hand-waved away into a mist of obscurantist superstition.

Third, I do not have any emotional investment in 'the metaphysical foundations of science.' The results speak for themselves, and they speak louder than any philosophical musings. I do, however, hold an emotional as well as a rational objection to having my profession consistently and consciously misrepresented by charlatans like Michael Behe and Deepak Chopra who are looking to separate the easily impressionable from their money.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 06:14:53 AM EST
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You really shouldn't take things personally.

Firstly: Peace, brother - if you were a fanatic you wouldn't be here!

And I have no problem with your other two points except that I don't know enough about either Behe or Chopra to make a judgment on them.

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 06:30:30 AM EST
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Peace, comrade. And thank you for your kind words.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 06:40:27 AM EST
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But heretics are most heartily welcome ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 06:46:34 AM EST
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Sometimes is gets to the point where dissenting voices are praised just because they dissent, not because their dissent actually has any value. Being a heretic seems to have become a mark of pride among academics in the humanities. Which means that seeking to put oneself outside the consensus becomes a way of seeking status. Where what should be sought is a better consensus. The proponents of plate tectonics were not trying to achieve status by being heretics. And a heretic is a lot more likely to be wrong than right, it's just that everyone thinks they're the next Galileo.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 06:56:18 AM EST
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....Unless you count the 3 Smiths hammering out a consensus outside the Stockmann department store in downtown Helsinki. They've been at it since 1932. Not exactly what I would call forging ahead.

Making mistakes is how we learn, getting it right is the real uneducational status seeking. ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 07:35:25 AM EST
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What's with the red noses?

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 04:22:19 PM EST
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Comic Relief

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Dec 28th, 2007 at 12:59:13 AM EST
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Did you photoshop them in?

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 28th, 2007 at 11:40:23 AM EST
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No, they are part of the natural student exuberance of May 1st celebrations.

Here, the Havis Amanda statue is getting her student hat in a similar ritual requiring the skills of the engineering students ;-)


You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Dec 29th, 2007 at 06:29:52 AM EST
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Being a dissenter is neither a sufficient nor a necessary condition to be right.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 09:03:47 AM EST
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But seen from my world of rightness, you are all dissenters ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 09:14:08 AM EST
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