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anyone who is into keeping it civil, anyway...

You seem to think that called Migeru all sorts of names is civil. I'm not entirely sure I can understand how that is the case.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 08:14:49 AM EST
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well, 'civil' is relative.

i usually succeed in not alienating too many people too often, but i obviously have failed here.

so not everyone's idea of 'civil' will be the same...

i guess where i draw the line is ad hom, i don't know m personally, so don't judge his person, but his comments, or their tenor.

i feel there would be a perfectly relaxed, enjoyable way for m and me to express our differences were that the will from both sides.

if you study my posts, you'll see that i make peace more than war, though i can be stung into hostility, a sign that i need to grow up more, as it really shouldn't bother me at all.

i hold no grudge, and even appreciate what feel like inimical posts, rather than friendly ones, if they come from posters whose opinions i respect.

an example being the one downthread from afew.

and i'm quite willing to bail from discussions like this, or even ET altogether, if i felt that i was alienating more people, so thanks for speaking up.

the ratings system speaks volumes, and if enough people troll rate me, or quit encouraging me, i'm outta here like a cool breeze.

till then...

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 09:23:40 AM EST
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Gnome Quadrant, please!  With sources and links.
</snark>

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 01:33:25 PM EST
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Metavision, the war is over.  You can stop shooting.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 01:44:13 PM EST
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Four gnomes an the "science" side, one on the "metaphysics" side, two absent from the mess, two more coming in late (I for one still haven't read the previous thread) and critical of both sides even if being on one side (talking a similar position to rg, whom I hope I am not mistaken to count to the 'other side'), same for an ex-gnome, while it's not gnomes who dominate in issuing the 1-2 ratings for the other side (and 4 ratings for the own side) -- I don't think the situation is as assymmetric as you view it in your current state of mind.

With all that said, I ask you for a third time to cool down after several others managed to. At present you are the only one pouring kerosene on the fire, and I am obliged to stop it.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 02:07:00 PM EST
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Your skewed assessment and male medical diagnosis.  Again insulting.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Thu Dec 27th, 2007 at 08:11:52 PM EST
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Unfair, Metavision.  There is no reason why FPers can't engage in discussing topics that they are interested in and/or sceptical of.

DoDo is just pointing out that even FPers have different opinions on things.  I'm really not understanding where this venom towards FPers has come from, especially from you. Some of your comments have been deliberately hurtful which I wouldn't have expected from you.  

If situations in threads start turning nasty then it is our job to try to diffuse things or where something really off the mark has been said, to say so.

The thread went quiet last night with no more comments after about 10pm here and none when I'd gone to bed.  Most people have stepped back and tried to calm down and now I wake up to more biting comments from you. Please draw the line now, because this thread can't go anywhere constructive in the state it is in.

Considering my absence, this is a topic I would like to have discussed and I am really disappointed to see it turn out so badly.

I'm only speaking on behalf of myself here but all of the FPers put a lot of their time and soul into ET.  There's no power trip or glamour for us, it's hard work at times and to be attacked in the way that we have been in this thread is really unfair.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 28th, 2007 at 05:21:23 AM EST
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Melo, Sven, rg, and diary author Chris Cook are all male, too. While the females Fran, tsp, poemless and In Wales all called on you to stop it downthread.

I haven't read the full pre-history in other diaries of why you feel so hurt, but if that unrequested email you marked as spam and suspected of ugliness is part of it, note that since I did look into it. Certainly no ugliness there, it's definitely not someone who you felt insulted by or have insulted in these threads. It's someone you still consider a friend. But since outing him/her would be an internet crime, I ask you to either read that email or allow me to send his/her identity via an email of my own.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Dec 28th, 2007 at 06:15:44 AM EST
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