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What is ironic (or perhaps intended) is that Bush had announced his "axis of evil" with Iran while Iran had a vey moderate president and government, and soon after that Iran elected a hardliner president. Not a surprising scenario, actually. I have more fear now that Bush administration had intentions for military escalations in the Middle East right away. They are just making every "useful" enemy there, regardless of a priori fundamentalism level (compare Saddam's Iraq vs Saudi Arabia) or racial "patriotism" (Iran is Indoeropean, not Arab nation). It is almost beside the point what Iraq (that is, Iran) is doing. Europe is just playing the hapless weasel role again.
by das monde on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 07:49:07 AM EST
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Hapless Europe? I would say many in Europe totally agree with wars unleashed by Mr Bush (for example politicians and their media retinues) and they bear full moral and legal responsibilities for allowing new Fuhrer to act.
by FarEasterner on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 10:52:18 AM EST
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France and Germany did all they could to stop Bush invading Iraq, short of actually declaring war on the US/UK (which Russia didn't do either) so I don't know what you're talking about.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 10:58:09 AM EST
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Short of...declaring war? This was simply not the case and I don't know where did you get such information. About hands in gloves with American British regimes there is no need to talk about really - even Mr Schroeder and Mr Chirac who demagogically opposed the war on Iraq offered all kind of military and logistical help for US-UK war criminals.
by FarEasterner on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:10:59 AM EST
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What exactly was France's and Germany's involvement in "Operation Iraqi Freedom"?

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:12:55 AM EST
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Airports, hospitals, refuel, intelligence etc etc.
by FarEasterner on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:16:27 AM EST
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I suppose they could have pulled out of NATO, yes.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:17:22 AM EST
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Don't go all purist on us FE.

Actually, it's fun to watch the  outrage.

But you've got to have an appetite and appreciation for heavy helpings of hypocrisy.

And season it up heavily with salt.

"When the abyss stares at me, it wets its pants." Brian Hopkins

by EricC on Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 01:23:03 PM EST
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European hypocrisy - this is the reason why I (and I am not alone) don't like Europe. European states were always hiding carnivorous instincts by liberal propaganda. Just come to Asia - everything is on display and politicians mostly do not deny that they take bribes and have disproportionate assets. Emotionally Asdian politicians have my sympathy - not any European one even from super clean Norway or Sweden - besides they are so boring and incompetent they also lie on regular basis. I do not tolerate any liers and hypocrites.
by FarEasterner on Fri Feb 2nd, 2007 at 08:23:13 AM EST
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