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I've thought that for a long time. I am of the opinion that our elites just want the cannon fodder and cheap labour, though Redstar had some good arguments about pensions and intergenerational solidarity in one of the diaries on the French fertility rate.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 07:51:29 AM EST
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<humble acknowledgment of compliment>

There is also the counter argument, one advanced by the PCF in the 1960's (it may surprise many that Maurice Thorez, at his wife's behest, was against abortion), that population control was a tool wielded against the working classes to limit their power.

</humble acknowledgment of compliment.>

Fai de bèn a Bertrand, te lou rendra en cagant

by redstar on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 10:17:41 AM EST
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Do the elites know what they want?

Apart from a vague sense of More is Good and Less is Bad, I'm not sure there's much of an evidence of a masterplan.

If anything, looking at the Right in the US it's clear that these people are deeply, almost pathologically confused, and detached from mainstream consensus reality.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 09:23:05 PM EST
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I dunno. Seems to me they're confused to be sure, but more in the "onward christian soldiers" way, ie vague notions of the power of demography and its usages over history in the extension of dominion (or empire, if you rather).

For instance, some of these fools actually thought it possible to not only be welcomed as liberators in Irak, but that with enough proselytizing zeal, the conversions would be right on the heals of liberation; thus is this dominionism of roughly a quarter of Americans - those quarter who supply so many of the troops for America's overseas adventures -  so well aligned with the empire-building aims of America's elite.

It might be added that this state of affairs is not unlike what most of the rest of the West looked like before the enlightenment, and gives a certain appreciation, for example, of St Bart's day.

Of course, the fight doesn't always have to be against external foes, ie Thorez' point.

Fai de bèn a Bertrand, te lou rendra en cagant

by redstar on Thu Feb 15th, 2007 at 10:21:01 AM EST
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