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There's a post by Elizabeth Warren over at TPM Cafe that's also relevant here (and everybody interested in issues of class and poverty in the US should be reading TPM Cafe's Warren Report). The thread also includes a fun stat posted by 'TG' on income growth 1947-79 vs. 1979-2005 - i.e. the heyday of the high tax, strong union, expanding welfare state vs. the current period of neolib orthodoxy.

Family Income Growth
Percentile
Years 20th 40th 60th 80th 95th
1947-79 2.3% 2.4% 2.5% 2.4% 2.4%
1979-05 0.2% 0.4% 0.7% 1.0% 1.5%

If you look at that what stands out to me is not just the familiar contrast of across the board income growth vs. growing inequality, but the stunning fact that even at the 95th percentile incomes have been growing much more slowly than in the earlier period - at a forty percent lower rate. That's pretty stunning. I'll try to dig up the stats later today, but I believe that the only group doing better in the neoliberal era are the top one percent. I think that one should characterize it as a system that is designed to help the top one, and especially the top one tenth of one percent of society, with some trickle down that steadily peters out as you go along the class gradient.

by MarekNYC on Thu Feb 15th, 2007 at 01:36:32 PM EST

I believe that the only group doing better in the neoliberal era are the top one percent. I think that one should characterize it as a system that is designed to help the top one, and especially the top one tenth of one percent of society, with some trickle down that steadily peters out as you go along the class gradient.

Exactly.

And France is resisting:

That last graph explains more than anything the permanent attacks against France in the business press.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 15th, 2007 at 01:56:21 PM EST
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Many countries have a relatively equitable distribution of wealth: Germany, Canada, Japan, Sweden, and, yes, France. All of those have Ginis hugging .3, compared with the USA's .47. And among those, Sweden is by far the most socialist, with the lowest Gini, highest taxes, highest government spending, lushest welfare, and strongest unions.

However, Sweden is also a success story. It has strong economic growth and low unemployment. Canada has the fastest economic growth in the G-8. Japan has had sluggish growth for 15 years, but is still associated with industriousness and productivity. In contrast, the only thing France can boast is high per-hour productivity; it has high unemployment and had slow economic growth until 2005. It also has a somewhat hierarchical culture, which makes it easy to characterize it as a cumbersome bureaucracy. The US bleeds way more money to administration than France - for example, it bleeds 7% of its GDP every year to health care waste - but it is too counterintuitive to be asserted without evidence.

by Alon (alon_levy1@yahoo.com) on Thu Feb 15th, 2007 at 07:45:19 PM EST
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