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If the policies were meant to prevent Russia "slipping toward dictatorship" (which I insist is an absurd position looking at the amounts of cash the instigators of such policies amassed) one could certainly interpret this as "protecting democracy" eh? Or contributing to it? Especially since you then say that the Russians "...didn't give democracy even one decade to work", meaning that Gaidar's rule was a democracy, no? And BTW are you suggesting that a democratic "dissipation of assets" would not "deprive the center of power"?

I don't know that I'm worse than "what i accuse LR of being" - because the worse I accuse it of, is that its a bad joke. Actually so much so that it only makes sense as some sort of weird FSB psyops: rabid anti-russianism as a scarecrow that unites russians against the enemy. To rational people, the tone of your blog is such that it creates sympathy for Putin. Think about it.

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Tue Feb 20th, 2007 at 03:44:08 PM EST
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it only makes sense as some sort of weird FSB psyops: rabid anti-russianism as a scarecrow that unites russians against the enemy. To rational people, the tone of your blog is such that it creates sympathy for Putin. Think about it.

Do you know the eXile has a thing going trying to figure out who LR really is?  They think it's either the work of an anti-Russia NGO or a lonely American girl.  Other people have written in with suggestions about a disgruntled Balkan emigree, nasty Brit journalist, etc.  But I think you should send them your theory.  She's FSB!  

I don't think it's true for a second, but it's a delicious accusation.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Tue Feb 20th, 2007 at 04:03:46 PM EST
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this thread is fun! I love conspiracy theories.

LR's (her?/his?/them?)anti-russian style reminds me of the speeches of Valeriya Ilyinichna Novodvorskaya, our пламенная революционерка (passionate revolutionary). I adore listen to her, she's kind of Zhirinovsky (but attacks from a western-right side)  and for more aesthetically challenged snobs, just like me

:-)

Theory that she's an FSB bug is nice too, not in a kind of some or t'other Nasty Colonel Ivanov from KGB but, say, a retired ex-Soviet journalist who was working abroad for ages could've created such blog. Easy-peasy

by lana on Tue Feb 20th, 2007 at 05:28:42 PM EST
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Jealous dear, because nobody is trying to figure out who YOU are?  Or are you mentioning that because you know your pathetic substantive case has been exposed as such, so now it's time to change the subject?

Russia is the best country in the world . . . except for all the others!
by LaRussophobe (larussophobe@yahoo.com) on Wed Feb 21st, 2007 at 03:55:47 PM EST
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No, one couldn't say that at all (unless one were a moron).

I don't think Gaidar ever believed Russia could become a democracy and I don't think he ever said it could.  I don't think he ever took any action to promote democracy, and my blog has never praised him for doing so.  Your claim that we have is BOLDFACED LIE , pure and simple.  You've twisted our words to suit your own propagandistic purposes, and that is an outrage.  You didn't even do us the courtesy of quoting us in your original comment.  Disgusting!

What Gaidar wanted was to make Russia as benign a state as possible, and to make it as difficult to consolidate power for a dictator as possible. This is basically the same idea that the American founding fathers had.  They didn't create true democracy (they excluded women and blacks from voting guarantees), but they did create a government that was failsafe against dictatorship.  Moreover, stopping a Hitler is not the same thing as electing a Ronald Reagan.  There's lots and lots in between and Gaidar was not so stupid to fail to notice that (even if you are).

It turned out Gaidar was exactly correct, and Russia did almost immediately lapse back into autocracy.  Had he not done as he did, Putin's power would be far greater now. He's spent almost his whole term of office scrambling to collect the broken pieces of power left by Gaidar.  

Labeling "absurd" views you don't agree with is the mark of a nasty undereducated little child (or a meglomaniac).  It's amazing that you can proceed in such a childish and haughty manner and yet dispense criticism of others as being beneath you.  A slug's belly is not beneath you.

Russia is the best country in the world . . . except for all the others!

by LaRussophobe (larussophobe@yahoo.com) on Wed Feb 21st, 2007 at 03:51:55 PM EST
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Listen Gaidar was the head - and some would say a beneficiary - of possibly the greatest looting of public property in the history of mankind. He made sure that assorted gangsters (many of which were former Party cadres BTW - and so was Gaidar) became the richest men in the world. Anybody that tries to portray this as some sort of "drive to protect Russia from dictatorship" is either out of touch with the real world, or an easy victim of propaganda. What's more all this was being done with the blessing and the direction of the "West", prominent members of which also profited handsomely. If you didn't mean that Gaidar was defending democracy (and instead was just taking measures "against dictatorship" - if that's a different thing in your mind) you sure didn't put it clear enough. In fact you still don't.

Finally - and I mean finally - labeling in an internet discussion (as a side remark outside the scope of one's reply) a stated opinion of an (obvious) non-expert as "absurd", is by no means and in no way the sort of invective you seem to think it is. It's not. It is a statement of dismissive opinion. On the other hand, your demeanor over here has been anything but polite. I really don't think that the proponents of the Ann Coulter school of argumentation can lecture on debating manners. In fact your behavior here (as seen in your reply above) is truly "the mark of a nasty undereducated little child (or a meglomaniac)". And while I might very well be a "moron", I leave our readers to judge our relative IQ levels based on what we have respectively written.

All this if indeed you are not an FSB operative, a possibility that I find more and more likely with each of your responses. If that's the case, you are a genius and you are doing your masters a great service.

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Thu Feb 22nd, 2007 at 05:54:15 AM EST
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