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Your abuse of the ratings system in this thread has been spectacular. For the record, a 2 or a 1 should not be used to convey disagreement, and even less as a form of petty retaliation. As a result of your abuse:

  • your ratings have been wiped;

  • your capacity to rate comments has been removed. This will last for one week from today. If you again abuse the ratings system after your capacity to rate is re-established, you will lose it for good.

One of your comments has disappeared because of the number of zero-ratings it attracted. You should be aware that outrageous comments can also be purely and simply deleted by site administration. This community has never gone in much for police methods, because there's generally a good atmosphere and users show respect for one another. No one has ever been banned. There can, however, be a first time.

This is a formal warning: if you go on posting comments that it is impossible for the community to leave on the record:

  • your account will be suspended for a week;

  • if, after re-establishment, you persist, your account will be closed.

There will be no discussion of this ruling, and it will be applied without fail.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Feb 28th, 2007 at 05:06:47 AM EST
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I used the rating system in a very consistent manner, with 1 to indicate trollish insults exclusively and 2 to indicate spectacularly irrational comments. There was no abuse on my part. And if I'm going to be mobbed in this manner, what makes you think I give a damn about this community?

By the way, I love how fast police action has broken out in this supposedly anti-authoritarianism community. It's a beautiful example of group-think in action. Doesn't do a thing for your own credibility but then again we can't all win. So I think I'll stay true to my dissident principles and you'll lose all of your own credentials.

by richardk (richard kulisz gmail) on Wed Feb 28th, 2007 at 05:23:05 AM EST
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I don't think you give a damn about this community. What makes you think any of us care about that?

You don't like it here, you know what you can do.

End of discussion.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Feb 28th, 2007 at 05:29:28 AM EST
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You don't like it here, you know what you can do.

In his case, that's probably stay and be a pain until you ban him so he can add the community to his hate list.

He's like those London yobs who take pride in their ASBOs. The length of his hate list is his personal measure of accomplishment.

But, like with the ASBOs, by disciplining him you're making his day.

Don't feed the troll.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 28th, 2007 at 05:35:16 AM EST
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That's a helpful comment, Mig. You grumpy old man.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Feb 28th, 2007 at 05:39:26 AM EST
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Forewarned is forearmed.

How does a grumpy young man like me get to as be happy in his middle-age as you are, afew?

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 28th, 2007 at 05:41:00 AM EST
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Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll?

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Feb 28th, 2007 at 05:45:53 AM EST
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Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll?

and politics...

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char

by Melanchthon on Wed Feb 28th, 2007 at 08:45:26 AM EST
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I really don't give a damn about "community". Not just this one but any community. I give a damn about knowledge and ideas and justice. There's a surprisingly high density of those things on eurotrib. Even coming from utter assholes such as yourself. By the way, it's the second time you've declared End of Discussion. Don't you get tired of acting like a particularly immature child?
by richardk (richard kulisz gmail) on Wed Feb 28th, 2007 at 05:40:34 AM EST
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Richard. The "high density of knowledge and ideas and justice" which you kindly notice on eurotrib comes in good part from the atmosphere of respect and tolerance we have for one another. It's not a weakness, it's a strength.

It is possible to disagree vigorously with others here without needing to treat them with contempt or insults. Just bring out your facts and arguments, if things are so obvious to you, and enlighten us. We actually listen, you know.

I personally don't mind so much your hostile comments on their own, because the only person they shed a poor light on is you (on your personality and manners, if not always on your graps of facts), but the fact is that the disrupt threads and lower the "high density" you referred to above.

Thus, if you cannot abide by the standards of this place, you WILL be banned. You'll still be able to read us an enjoy our quality content, but we won't have to deal with your needlessly disruptive manners. Do you really think you contribute to the "high density of knowledge and ideas and justice" when you insult just about everybody here?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Feb 28th, 2007 at 05:54:55 AM EST
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One of the surprising aspects of ET's contributors is how almost all of them possess these relatively rare character traits of having a very wide knowledge, being capable of admitting being wrong or having learned something new, having an endless curiosity, all the while being kind to one another.

This results in an incredibly high signal-to-noise ratio.

Richardk obviously doesn't possess any of those traits, and as I noted a while ago, we can expect more of the same from him. Some people just can't adjust, and he won't, he can't help it.

by balbuz on Wed Feb 28th, 2007 at 06:16:50 AM EST
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Group-hug for richardk!

Could a resident psychologist get meta on us all and explain about how behaviour is mirrored and then re-mirrored so the tone reflects and magnifies?

I suggest the following:

a) Ignore a richardk post.  Never reply to it.  DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.  As balbuz writes, he has done this elsewhere, it is his normal online behaviour.  Asking him to change won't work.  

b) Ignore a richardk TROLL post.  Once he gets...richardk-I-smell-evil-I-love-all-humans-except-for-the-90%-I-HATE...that's it, conversation over.  No comeback.  Bye bye ta ta.  And of course troll-rate his sudden racist outbursts.

c)  Be very CAPS LOCK ABUSIVE at him while also super-troll rating his posts (that annoy you.)  I tried that, I was hoping the whole mess would be super-troll rated (take it outside!)...and then...everyone can have fun being violently abusive with words and pics...  The "Stormy Catharsis" as it's known...heavy on the humour!

"Your farts smell of stale cheese and ugly beetles thrive in your armpit hair!"

d)  Become the ET policeman...da pigs!  Find some ET law he has violated and punish him.

I think a)-c) would be effective enough.  And his ratings...heh...ratings tell you about the rater as well as the comment...  I have received a richardk "1"--heh...I was a tad abusive once upon a time...

But never again, I promised The Stormy Present!

(She theatened me with a bloody axe...tork about "the right way to do things"...

...from me richardk will only ever receive a "4" or a "0"...but his comments...we can all leave them hanging if we so wish...no ratings...no replies...non sequiturs...and zero rating for the racist ones...

Well, as they say, your mileage may vary...depending on your time, transport medium, length of hair and, er, wind factors....cough cough...confused now...

Ah yes, I remember:



Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed Feb 28th, 2007 at 07:11:42 AM EST
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