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To top off what is apparently Eat The Poor Week, NPR aired a story yesterday on All Things Considered in which they ...considered the option of poverty being a good thing.   They introduced the piece talking about Democrats caring about the poor, considering it a moral issue, but economists, who know about these things, think that poverty is not only necessary, it is a good thing.

For those of you with flip-top heads, who can take out your brains and give them a good rinsing off, I present to you the esteemed Gary Becker, featured expert on the topic:

"Well, it's unfair," Becker acknowledges. "The accident of birth, the accident of the genes we have, the accident of parents we have: It is unfair."
But, Becker asks, what can the nation do about the inequalities of parents and genes? "Unless you think you're going to start switching babies around across families, as Plato recommended," he jokes. "You can't do that."

Arguing Against the Dangers of a Fairer Economy

Becker says it's dangerous for the government to force the economy to be fairer. Programs that take money away from the rich to give to the poor, Becker argues, mess with incentives. High-school kids may not be as motivated to go to college. Some college students might decide the cost of a higher degree isn't worth it. Over time, the United States could end up with a workforce that's not as highly educated, not as skilled. The country might not be as competitive. The economy might not grow as fast.

Someone recently recommended to me the Becker-Posner Blog, which I guess is supposed to be fair and balance because Posner is a lefty.  Regrettably, I have more pressing things to do than watch one rich old white man who is pro-poverty exchange words with another rich old white guy who is pro-selling kids on the free market.  Like, popping some popcorn or something...


Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Fri Feb 9th, 2007 at 02:10:21 PM EST
Richard Posner, lefty? That's snark, right? I guess the reason to read them is that they're two of the most influential right wing intellectuals in the US. Might not be pleasant reading, but it's nice to know how the other side thinks.
by MarekNYC on Fri Feb 9th, 2007 at 03:44:16 PM EST
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Sheer snark.

I know what you are saying about "how the other side thinks," but I feel like I see the materialization of how the other side thinks every day, all around me.

And the thing is, so do they.  We both work at this luxurious university surrounded by some of the most impoverished communities in the country.  Impoverished and black.  So I find that quip about the inequality of genes especially offensive.  

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Fri Feb 9th, 2007 at 04:30:52 PM EST
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Deliberately Bell Curve.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Feb 9th, 2007 at 04:39:50 PM EST
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Posner is interesting as a right winger because occassionaly he gets it right on a number of topics (like IP) or rather, shows convincing right wing arguments for causes you'd think are left wing. Calling him left is eehm, odd, though. I seem to remember the cornerites at national review nominating him as their favourite right wing intellectual. Or something.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Feb 9th, 2007 at 05:36:25 PM EST
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Do you have an URL for his stuff about IP?
by Laurent GUERBY on Sat Feb 10th, 2007 at 05:42:08 AM EST
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Here's an old post from the Becker-Posner blog on the topic.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sat Feb 10th, 2007 at 11:14:43 AM EST
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Thanks!
by Laurent GUERBY on Sat Feb 10th, 2007 at 05:15:31 PM EST
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What a load of bull, especially the non-sequitur about redistribution harming the general level if education.

There are probably system reasons why a moderately unequal distribution of income is unavoidable or even good for the general march of the economy as a whole, but poverty? Absolute poverty is an unadulterated evil, and in terms of income it's not that expensive to lift everyone out of relative poverty, which cannot but be good for the economy unless cheap, abundant labour is a goal.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Feb 9th, 2007 at 04:04:25 PM EST
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You can also summarise it as "One mustn't let the riff raff in."

The depravity of these kinds of views isn't nearly as shocking as the fact that they're being aired in public without a firestorm of criticism.

People should be pointing and laughing at these goons throughout the media, instead of taking them seriously.

But when we have any number of clowns being fobbed off on the public as analysts, pundits and deep thinkers, the fact that they're being taken seriously has a kind of depressing inevitability to it.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Feb 9th, 2007 at 04:47:10 PM EST
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Remember re-education camps and the gulag?

This is the kind of crap that inspired them, when left unchecked for a couple of decades.

Tom could use the rigorous diet anyway.

Fai de bèn a Bertrand, te lou rendra en cagant

by redstar on Fri Feb 9th, 2007 at 06:24:01 PM EST
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