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As we move in the spectrum og private/public companies, how does employees' position change? Under which ownership do they have more negotiating power? Do they gain a lot influence with taking shares of their (public) company?

As I understand, shareholder value is the king indicator of company's success. Morevoer, corporations are (kind of) legally oblidged to maximize shareholder's value, are they not? How is can be legally determined whether the board does its best? Can  long-term success be easily lost in a collective drive for fast profit margins?

It sounds to me that gaining maximal profit for investors can put a lot of pressure on workers. Is there good evidence that this pressure is increasing? How long were Ford and General Motors were giving "generous" salaries to their workers?

by das monde on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 03:52:50 AM EST
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Interesting question.  I think this is more of a mixed bag.  Legally workers don't lose any rights as they move from a public to a private company.  Unions offer the same positives and the same negatives to employees in both situations.  

Shareholder value is important in both settings.  you point out that the private equity guys may be very short term because they want to make their money as quickly as possible, improve the company and sell it.  Yet further up thread someone comments on the pressure on public companies to make quarterly projections, and points out the temptation to eschew the long term to improve the short.

you find good people and good leaders in both settings, imho, and the opposite as well.  personally, I don't find a conflict between investor and employee goals.  well motivated and well paid employees build unbelievable companies.  and leadership, ceo's, should easily be able to make that point to investors,,,and drive for great results.  there is not conflict with customers either--innovate, give them quality and service, and they will flock to you.  this can be done by private companies and public companies.  but it takes strong leadership with intellectual depth, good ethics and values--qualities not always easy to find, + a ton of other qualities.

by wchurchill on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:11:53 PM EST
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I think that just as in politics, leaders with "intelectual depth, good ethics and values" are very rare species in buisiness as well. It is not so much because it is hard to train yourself proper discipline, but more of the dominant buisiness culture. Inspired people, not so much by immediate tons of money but by long term development plans, have harder time to break through when investors cry only for most effective returns. This is not to say that these people cannot succeed (Branson is an example), but very few have the ability to satisfy the "basic" market race requirements and have non-monetary fun.

The goals of investors, employees and customers might be similar, but basic impulses differ quite much.

One other naive question: when people speculatively buy shares in the market while the company is not issuing them, are they really "investing" in a technical sense? No new money comes to company's pocket, it is just appreciation of (presumably) growing value of the company, right?

by das monde on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 08:12:58 PM EST
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