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I was referring to the separation of powers thingy.

The parliament definitely needs legislative initiative. It's the main deficiency with EU democracy that I can see.

The EU's core problem is that it doesn't really deal with people's day-to-day concerns in a way they can understand. It deals with them at at least one remove most of the time.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Mar 26th, 2007 at 07:43:16 AM EST
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I don't think having the executive come out of the largest parliamentary faction is good for separation of powers. The failure of the national parliaments to investigate the CIA prison/flight scandal is just the best and most recent example of this.

So, codecision and making the Commission President not owe their place to either Parliament or Council sould be a good thing.

Also, how the President is selected has nothing to do with how they are removed. One could still allow the EP to impeach them, to confirm the appointments of the commissioners, etc.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 26th, 2007 at 07:46:58 AM EST
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You sound a bit like a thirties US neoliberal :-)

What makes you think that a directly elected President would be more likely to act on an issue like the CIA prison/flight scandal than a directly elected Parliament?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Mar 26th, 2007 at 08:44:34 AM EST
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No, I'm saying that a parliament tied to the executive is even less likely to act.

The less the people in the various institutions owe their seats to each other (or to the same outside agent) the better.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 26th, 2007 at 08:51:18 AM EST
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The EU's core problem is that it doesn't really deal with people's day-to-day concerns in a way they can understand.

You want the EU to take on the job of strengthening local government?

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 26th, 2007 at 07:49:39 AM EST
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No, it's pretty much an intrinsic problem of a supra-national organisation.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Mar 26th, 2007 at 07:52:50 AM EST
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So let's stop worrying about it.

Subsidiarity is a great thing. Higher instances of government should concentrate on setting minimum standards and facilitating coordination. Day-to-day concerns should not be the province of the national governments either. I'd strengthen both the EU and the local governments.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 26th, 2007 at 07:56:13 AM EST
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The problem is that it's not just a practical issue. It's also a PR issue. If local-level support happens - and of course it does - but it remains invisble, it's far too easy for old fashioned nationalisms to pretend that the EU isn't doing much anything except spending money on parliaments, doughnuts and bratwurst.

The EU is wretchedly bad at is promoting itself. This is partly because it's not unified ideologically, but also because there's no mechanism which links people's experience of the benefits to their source.

In my (UK based) experience, when money becomes available, it's discussed in very remote terms. Someone in a country far away decides to offer money... and local people are happy to take it. But there doesn't seem to be any feeling of relationship with the source of the money. It might as well be the tooth fairy or Santa Claus.

This is very, very bad, because it enforces an assumption of non-participation. Us vs them is much less coherent than us here vs us there.

So the feeling of local intervention and interest matters a lot. If handled properly, it could do a lot to create political and social coherence.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Mar 26th, 2007 at 08:45:11 PM EST
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sounds like you're saying we should phase out the middlemen of state government.

since that's where the majority of the corruption is, i agree.

local government is also often corrupt and inefficient, but the damage is less catastrophic.

hopefully accountability will improve with growing awareness, stimulated by blogs like this.


~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Mar 27th, 2007 at 04:12:18 AM EST
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No, local government is pretty corrupt too. The media spotlight shines more often on the national government. After all, it's smaller.

In Spain the biggest source of corruption are land reclassifications and infrastructure building contracts. Most of this is politically under local government, except for the big national infrastructure like high-speed rail.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Mar 27th, 2007 at 04:39:01 AM EST
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interesting your comment started with a 'no', then repeated something i said!

idem with italy and the land reclassifications and infrastructure building contracts, not receiving media attention.

the corruption i was referring to is around military-industrial spending and secret service shenanigans, rendition policies etc.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Mar 27th, 2007 at 08:04:05 AM EST
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