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Milking subsidies for profit via loopholes has little to do with the invisible hand and much to do with poorly thought through state meddling.

A note "sur la forme" : casually suggesting torture as a remedy for profiteering, even in jest, does not enhance the credibility of this forum in the wider readership, which Eurotrib should be targeting at this point in it's development.  Old school news outlets enjoy pointing out this kind of excess as a reason to dismiss all of a blog's arguments wholesale.

by Guillaume on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 06:04:27 AM EST
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Old school news outlets enjoy pointing out this kind of excess as a reason to dismiss all of a blog's arguments wholesale.

While they meanwhile cheerfully publish people calling for genocide, at least in the English speaking world.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 06:07:22 AM EST
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But they are trusted sources in people's eyes.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 06:08:11 AM EST
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My point is that it's never a good idea to give the press, or anyone else, an ovious reason to dismiss you offhand.  For example by suggesting the painful slaying of people out to make a quick, yet perfectly legal buck...
by Guillaume on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 06:16:32 AM EST
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I think if people are looking that hard - do you think any reasonable person could have taken him seriously? - for ways to ignore you, they'll find them anyway. Your typeface won't be serious enough, or your colour scheme will be juvenile or something.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 06:20:50 AM EST
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It's not the people looking hard and nit picking that you should worry about, it's the people who use this kind of statement to look no further.  You said it yourself:


do you think any reasonable person could have taken him seriously?

If it isn't serious, why read it?

I'm sorry to be picking on one post, and person, in particular.  But this is the kind of thing that makes blog reading fastidious to me and to some people I've spoken to: "some good stuff...too bad about the comments though".

Ultimately, it's about how wide you want your readership/impact.

by Guillaume on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 07:00:58 AM EST
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"Too bad about the comments"?

You know, the quality of the comments on this blog is a cut above most others.

You should see the Spanish blogs. Another ETer described them to me as "feisty" which I think it's a polite understatement.

Though I do agree with you to a point. DeAnander was on a campaign to get people to stop it with the sexist jokes and set phrases at one point, too.

But if people start policing style like that (say, handing out 2's to people who make less than tasteful jokes) then the same people whom you expect will write off the blog because of the jokes will say it is a humourless bastion of political correctness.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 07:10:57 AM EST
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I'm sorry, I should have been clearer.  My "Too bad about the comments" remark was meant to illustrate a complaint that I have heard about blogs in general, not this one in particular.  I agree that the comments here are often top notch.

Also, I want to make it clear that I am in no way trying to strike a blow for political correctness which I despise, nor am I a fan of the various speech polices running amok.  I believe in free, not freeish, speech and I am acutely aware of the dangers posed by self-censorship.

My general point is that Eurotib claims to have a broader purpose, seeking a larger audience.  Therefore, when posting here people might ponder whether they are really contributing or just making noise.  If that means less "funny" people, less intellectual pontificating, I'm not sure it's a bad thing.

by Guillaume on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 07:58:25 AM EST
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casually suggesting torture as a remedy for profiteering, even in jest, does not enhance the credibility of this forum in the wider readership
Might be true, but I'd hate for ET to lose its sense of humor for fear of looking silly. MSM is WRONG on this point, we should maintain that they are WRONG on this point, and fault them for lacking a sense of humor and generally insulting people's intelligence by assuming that if you make jokes you can't be serious. I don't think yielding to these humorless bastards does anything but turn you into one...
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 06:16:43 AM EST
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I'm using one particular post to make a general statement about excessive comments.  Humour is fine...if it's funny and identifiable.  Reread the initial post pretending to be your stepmother coming here for the first time : you'll understand why I don't recommend reading this blog (and others), as widely as I might, in spite of it's qualities.
by Guillaume on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 06:49:00 AM EST
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Guillaume, what follows is spoken in jest:

I have no intention of trying to get my mother-in-law* to come here. Really.

 * I take it that's what you meant by stepmother (both being translatable by belle-mère in French).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 07:30:02 AM EST
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so we're doing yo mama jokes now...
You've driven me way off point smart Alec.

"The English..soooo superior" (A fish Called Wanda:-)

by Guillaume on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 08:06:07 AM EST
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And that's the nicest quote about the English from AFCW ;)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 08:14:08 AM EST
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I see your point, but disagree with the premise. I'm not sure if ET should be seeking readership amongst those too dim to 'get it'. There might well be a quantity/quality trade off somewhere.
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 07:32:15 AM EST
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Elitist! ;-P

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 07:34:04 AM EST
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Yes, indeed. And proudly so.
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 07:44:12 AM EST
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