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Sometimes sorry to be an American. | 70 comments (70 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Same here for me here (none / 1)

Well, in my moral system in which even mass murderers deserve humane treatment and due process, Rasputin deserves some pity for being a victim of Court intrigue.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Thu Mar 29th, 2007 at 04:21:03 AM EST
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Re: Same here for me here (4.00 / 2)

I generally wait for the tabloids to tell me who deserves sympathy. Much easier than having a moral system.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Mar 29th, 2007 at 04:34:02 AM EST
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Re: Same here for me here (none / 1)

I don't know, seems to me that due process and pity are logically two separate operations for the purposes of ascribing moral content. One can (and indeed must) give due in order to be moral, but it does not necessarily follow that pity should be felt in all cases.

Fai de bèn a Bertrand, te lou rendra en cagant

by redstar on Thu Mar 29th, 2007 at 06:32:37 AM EST
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Re: Same here for me here (none / 1)

I would think pity forms part of the philosophical basis for due process.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Thu Mar 29th, 2007 at 07:02:27 AM EST
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Re: Same here for me here (none / 1)

I think it's "do unto others..."

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 29th, 2007 at 07:12:46 AM EST
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Re: Same here for me here (4.00 / 3)

YOu are very likely right, and I confess to having not thought about it overmuch, given the concept of due process has been pretty well reified into something quite separate and (at least in most parts of Europe) worthy of automatic respect and support.

Fai de bèn a Bertrand, te lou rendra en cagant

by redstar on Thu Mar 29th, 2007 at 07:13:21 AM EST
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Re: Same here for me here (none / 1)

Is pity a good feeling? Being "pitiful" or "worthy of pity" is derogatory and "you have my pity" dismissive.

How about compassion? And what good is showing compassion if you're not going to do anything to alleviate suffering? As in "compassionate conservatism". Yes, we get compassion, but no relief.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 29th, 2007 at 07:16:14 AM EST
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Re: Same here for me here (none / 0)

This is what I was getting at.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Mar 29th, 2007 at 12:44:24 PM EST
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