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I think I was unclear. Corruption is real alright, and I do not doubt your examples.

What I refered to was stories like this joke:

The joke was Exxon's man could offer an official a nice pen.  Elf could offer a Mercedes.

And the implication that Exxon does its business fair, it is the others that are dirty. That reminded me of similar stories of how swedish companies are honest and thus fooled by their crocked foreign competitors.

So what I am disputing is if indeed Exxon did not offer more then a pen.

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by A swedish kind of death on Fri Mar 30th, 2007 at 10:28:22 PM EST
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But it was generally impossible for a US major oilco trader to simply cut an official a check for a bribe.  Europeans could be that direct.  US Oilcos do play games via agents etc.  the 5ct agent I referred to worked for a US major.  Tended to be on larger projects rather than one of, "let me have a cargo of Bonny Lite, here's $10K to make it happen".

US companies are not virgins in the forest.  No argument there.

by HiD on Sat Mar 31st, 2007 at 05:50:05 PM EST
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Swedish armtraders apparently also plays by way of agents.

A bribery scandal (by way of agents) was recently uncovered by a swedish documentary. JAS Gripen was sold and leased (two seperate deals) to the Czech republic and some pretty serious money changed hands to make it so.

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by A swedish kind of death on Sat Mar 31st, 2007 at 06:57:05 PM EST
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The arms trade is ten times as dirty as the oil industry.

I was rather shocked that anyone was surpried we do it too. If we didn't, we wouldn't get any planes sold.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Mon Apr 2nd, 2007 at 06:15:32 AM EST
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