At least for China and India this is the explanation.
Yes.. we could do propaganda if we ever wanted to... but my point is that propaganda is not the best way. narratives is the best.
And I am glad that T.G. Ash in the guardian followed this idea.. we need a common narrative theeater in europe.. we need to talk about European pioolitics in our every day life (and not Blair or Zapatero)... that will make the difference... from there we can construct a complete narrative.
now we are overwhelemd ... we need a Euroepan network.. with local nodes and a general European sphere where new narratives will flow more easily.
A pleasure I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude
Like unemployment in the US and Eruope..both give numbers right... but they are computed completely different. The differences is very small
So it all depends how you use it...and still 4 % growth know in Spain is much more impressive than thee 10% in China.. I can test it.
In any case I prefer living in europe than in the US .. so I am biased :)
but my criticism of Jerome, and occassional comments by others on this site, is that I don't think we should be presenting a distorted view on this site intentionally. Remember here is what Jerome said,
But that'(s exactly my point . <snip> The fact is that this presentation is no less true than the one e endlessly get in the media all over the place, i.e. that the US "free-market" economy is superior to Europe's sclerotic version. THAT's also a "marketing piece". That's the point I'm trying to make. The reality we're being sold is just marketing ans has only a tenuous link to reality. Thus my version provides balance and perspective, and it's even technically true.
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The fact is that this presentation is no less true than the one e endlessly get in the media all over the place, i.e. that the US "free-market" economy is superior to Europe's sclerotic version. THAT's also a "marketing piece". That's the point I'm trying to make. The reality we're being sold is just marketing ans has only a tenuous link to reality.
Thus my version provides balance and perspective, and it's even technically true.
I don't feel a need to market to others on this site,,,or present a point of view that counterbalances propoganda. I would rather that very bright people like Jerome argue their position. That's really the main reason I come to this site--a very bright and very diverse group of people. and I'm not an idealogue--I have things that I have learned and opinions that I happily present. But I've learned things here, and more generally in life, that have changed my views in many, many areas.
We are each going to be wrong about some things we argue, and that is fine. But if you add on top of that an intentional presentation of a biased view to counterbalance MSM or right wing nuts or whomever--it's just not what I would like to see in our discussions.
Actually in itself it is not a distorted picture.. just as it would not be a distorted picture if the unemployment numbers were presented properly...prolem is that they are not presented properly.
In any case, once you have settled with an opinion is generaly very difficult to change...facts notwithsstading(plus in most cases the sicentific narrative has no clear-cut naswer or even sn answer at all). BUt here most people do not make their minds easilo and they like the scientific and factual narrative more than others...it's great.
I do not expect more from this site :)
take care wc
