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What they were missing? The right kind of mining industry perhaps?

Now if I recall correctly the history of steam-engines it went something like this:

The brittish steamengines were for the first hundred years or so solely used in the brittish mining industry. First to pump water to prevent mines from flooding and later on to haul stuff out of the mines. To haul stuff you need rails, so you need a certain knowledge of railmaking too.

These early steamengines were rather big, (with later standards) inefficient, stationary things. Since it was costly to have them running a lot of try and error was applied to make them better. One famous succesfull improver was named Watt.

After a lot of development steamengines could be used for other things like running trains. They were not that good though. In the famous competition were Stephensons Rocket defeated Ericssons Novelty, one competing design was disqualified after it turned out they had hid a horse in the train. (Bet it would have won.)

Eventually laws of thermodynamics were formulated which gave an idea of what the machines actually did and some ways to calculate improvements and not just doing the old try and error. This is btw, were games like civilization often gets it wrong, steamengines => thermodynamics, not the other way around.

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by A swedish kind of death on Thu Mar 8th, 2007 at 08:59:57 AM EST
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This is btw, were games like civilization often gets it wrong, steamengines => thermodynamics, not the other way around.

A very important point.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 8th, 2007 at 09:08:42 AM EST
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The "accepted" answer to why Hellenistic civilization didn't go industrial is that their technosystem had no need for artificial energy sources. Human labour was cheap and plentiful (After all Egyptians had built the pyramids in this way).

Whereas England in the 18th century didn't have that much labour; most of the peasantry was tied to the land, and labour wasn't as cheap.

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Mar 8th, 2007 at 09:52:16 AM EST
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an entertaining fictional treatment of this crucial period -- the decades of early capitalism and steam engines -- is Neal Stephenson's massive trilogy:  Quicksilver, The Confusion, The System of the World.  an ambitious and not entirely successful undertaking, fascinating in its researched details more than for any novelistic quality.  The Leibniz/Newton quarrel is a major subtheme of the plot, and mining -- both silver and coal -- features prominently also.

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...
by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Mon Mar 12th, 2007 at 04:47:53 PM EST
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