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How did they get that number? Sounds high to me.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Apr 26th, 2007 at 06:51:12 AM EST
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Northern Ireland managed about 3500 or so, if you include actions by security forces as part of the total.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Apr 26th, 2007 at 06:55:08 AM EST
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It's not.

Wikipedia: The Troubles

Between 1969 and 2001, 3,523 people were killed as a result of the Troubles.

Wikipedia: ETA

ETA has committed approximately 900 killings and dozens of kidnappings.

So we're at 4,500, including minor players in the Basque conflict.

If you round before adding, you have "nearly 4000 in Ireland and the UK" and "nearly 1000 in Spain".

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 26th, 2007 at 06:58:44 AM EST
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I had the number right in my mind for ETA, but I did not realize there were so many death in Ireland.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Apr 26th, 2007 at 07:00:14 AM EST
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The "past 30 years" qualifier eliminates some very deadly years of the Troubles.  Some 500 people were killed in 1972 alone, I believe.  The overall death toll hit 1,000 in 1974.

There's also a definition issue... in that not all the deaths in N. Ireland were attributed to "terrorism."

Not that I'm saying the estimate is wrong.  I think it's accurate, but it's also a very hard (and politically loaded) thing to measure.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Apr 26th, 2007 at 07:06:08 AM EST
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30 years, 40 years, whatever, good enough for an op-ed.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 26th, 2007 at 07:18:25 AM EST
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