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Here time flows discreetly from observers. That was probably reason behind absence of history sense (evolution etc) among South Asian nations, for example Hindus and Tibetans what in turn was responsible for development of peculiar religious beliefs like samsara and reincarnation.

Are you saying it is a feature of the physical environment that time is perceived differently?

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 25th, 2007 at 12:57:14 PM EST
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To great extent the answer is yes. I think the environment was responsible in the beginning phase then other factors started working (joint family system, rigidity of social norms, religious beliefs etc).
by FarEasterner on Wed Apr 25th, 2007 at 01:03:07 PM EST
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So what exactly was it about the physical environment in the West that led to the development of a shipborne chronometer?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Apr 25th, 2007 at 02:50:40 PM EST
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It's mainly down to the introduction of large scale trading networks across water. With the trading networks being set up by European nations to the Americas you do have large featureless bodies of water that you need to navigate across. The Pacific generally does not have large enough populations at its periphery to set up these trading networks at that time.  the Indian ocean has trading networks that are set up either overland, or do not travel far enough out of sight of land for this item to be truely necessary.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 25th, 2007 at 03:42:42 PM EST
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I can go for that, up to a point.

The Chinese were famously intent on developing trade, and according to one (very debatable) suggestion they discovered America before the Europeans did.

But they got so far - and then they stopped. In theory there's no reason why they couldn't have begun trading with Europe - the potential for trade was certainly there, and the routes were already available.

If they had established trade routes, they would inevitably have been involved in the American adventure, one way or another.

So possibly the question is really - was there something in the physical environment that turned the Europeans into aggressive explorers, and the Chinese into isolationist stay-at-homes?

Europe could easily have chosen not to explore at all. Nominally the driver was access to spices, but it seems like a lot of effort to go to to put some nutmeg and saffron on the king's table.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Apr 25th, 2007 at 06:39:20 PM EST
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<hammering on the table> Perceptions, perceptions!

 How am I going to ever get this into your skulls! ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 25th, 2007 at 01:55:33 PM EST
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