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Giving to charities is a strong social and cultural value for many Americans.  I'm aware that it is not viewed as positively in many European countries.  It's one of many cultural differences between the US and EU.
by wchurchill on Sat Apr 28th, 2007 at 07:24:17 PM EST
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Yeah, I know... I've had many fights with Americans over whether charitable giving should be considered a virtue to be celebrated, or a nasty little thing we have to live with 'cause we have failed to put in place a system to make it unnecessary.

So, my message is, yeah, give to charity. But don't feel virtuous about it. Don't congratulate yourself for being a good person. Have the insight to see how this giving represents a facet of the failure of society. The failure of capitalism. It's not a very positive message, this. One should feel dirty about it. The fact that one have what others don't and until some things are fixed, it is a necessary evil. And this is what I really detest about the Gates and Buffets. They are so god damn smug about it!! Gentlemen, wipe those fucking smiles off your faces! Suck on a lemon, or something.

by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Sat Apr 28th, 2007 at 07:33:44 PM EST
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You're certainly entitled to your view.  And I would agree that is not something to be done to get worldly praise.  Many Americans are Christian and though this verse applies to praying, I think the concept would also apply to charity:
Matthew 6:5-6 (New International Version)

 5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

But I don't see helping a fellow man in need as something I should feel dirty about.  And I don't see all charitable donations as filling in for state failures.

by wchurchill on Sat Apr 28th, 2007 at 07:47:03 PM EST
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So would this social and cultural value be an inferred responsibility, perchance?

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Apr 28th, 2007 at 07:37:54 PM EST
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to each his own view, and then his own action.  I have a couple of American friends who would agree with someone.  as you know, it's a big diverse country.
by wchurchill on Sat Apr 28th, 2007 at 07:54:52 PM EST
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bruno-ken wrote a couple of diaries about this.

Charity in America

Charity, Solidarity & the L Word

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Sat Apr 28th, 2007 at 07:46:27 PM EST
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and hey, you're in them!

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Sat Apr 28th, 2007 at 07:48:29 PM EST
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