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I'm noting, good humor aside, that this is basically the second time you have called me arrogant in this thread alone.  You need to look at yourself and your communications with other people instead of pretending to be all wounded when they call you on what you're saying.

I never said TBG's comment was not insulting.  I said you're the one who interpreted the insult into you not being a "nice" person.  

And claiming the argument is based on you being enthusiastic about the DOW is ridiculous.  You either lack reading comprehension or you're being disingenuous (gee -- was that arrogant or was it supercilious?  neither, I think -- maybe you can come up with another name to call me).

It looks to me as though the argument is based on this:

TBG: "The US economy is only 'growing' if you're in the mythical top 1%.

For everyone else in the US, the economy is a deeply sucky thing"

WC:  "we both live in free countries.  if you want to believe this stuff, be my guest."

So, you think that basically saying it's a free country and your facts are a "belief" is... ?  not confrontational or dismissive?  merely showing enthusiasm for the DOW?  I think describing it as "disinterest" was being generous.

Y'know, there's a saying -- if one person's an asshole, it's probably them.  if everyone's an asshole, it's probably you.  With that in mind, why do YOU think you are so consistently "misunderstood" on this site?

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and allowing that you may not realize how insulting you're being -- you're doing your best to prove me wrong.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Apr 29th, 2007 at 08:29:03 PM EST
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I think that both you and wc (Hell, everyone on ET) should tune in - if you haven't already - to the Rhetoric of Now thread.

I regard the "Right/Left" distinctions as obsolete, and that most of us on ET - including wc probably - share the same Values.

Where we differ is how we express those Values - and boy can that lead to trouble.

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Apr 30th, 2007 at 04:06:47 AM EST
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Just follow the Dow.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 30th, 2007 at 04:23:52 AM EST
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Rhetoric of Dow?

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Apr 30th, 2007 at 04:28:00 AM EST
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No, the Dow The Jinx.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 30th, 2007 at 04:31:18 AM EST
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Y'know, there's a saying -- if one person's an asshole, it's probably them.  if everyone's an asshole, it's probably you
where does this come from?  you seem to be implying that I have called, or think, someone is an asshole in this dialogue.  I haven't, and I don't think anyone on this site is an asshole.  You are over the line with the implication, and more than impolite in using the term.
by wchurchill on Mon Apr 30th, 2007 at 11:04:37 AM EST
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Oh, so being polite is important?  is calling people arrogant and supercilious polite?  you imagine you're nothing but well-mannered with your insults?  If you'd like, I can go through this thread and downrate all your comments that have been insulting and name-calling so you'll have a guideline.

And nice way to avoid the main point of a comment once again.  

Does it really matter where the saying comes from?  I assure you it's quite common in the US in the "regular" people circles you claim to be so familiar with.  The meaning has nothing to do with you or calling people assholes -- it simply means that if you have a problem with lots of people (as opposed to one person) that the problem may lie with you rather than the other people. But you really didn't need that explained, did you?

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 30th, 2007 at 12:57:53 PM EST
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