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Yeah, it seems insane.

Why the stop at Vitoria between San Sebastian and Bilbao?

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 08:40:13 AM EST
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5-hour limit.

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by DoDo on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 08:43:24 AM EST
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Though maybe DB missed FEVE. (Goes checking)

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 08:43:58 AM EST
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According to Renfe, you have to change trains at Miranda de Ebro if you want to go from San Sebastian to Bilbao by rail. Which is amazing. Who woulda thunk?

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 08:48:51 AM EST
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FEVE is Spain's major narrow-gauge railway company, and is separate from RENFE. Today they control a large metre-gauge network along the northern coast. The easternmost section, just that Bilbao-San-Sabestian route, was taken over by the autonomous region as EuskoTren, and they invested a lot into it (saw their orders and construction tenders regularly).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 09:04:00 AM EST
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Their network looks like an extended commuter rail network for the whole province. In fact you have to change trains twice to go from San Sebastian to Bilbao.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 09:11:20 AM EST
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??? Not according to the timetable I linked.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 09:21:11 AM EST
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So what is this Line plan (PDF) then?

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 09:35:59 AM EST
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I don't know, but it is on the sub-page of EuskoTran, the tramway segment, and the map blows up cities consequently, and 1D and 1K merely seem to be two parts of the same line. Here is the general timetable page, with trains, trams, buses, and the different brands and lines of all these separately.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 11:07:49 AM EST
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My stupid, they don't go beyond Bilbao anymore...

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 08:51:20 AM EST
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You mean take a detour just because it fits in the 5h limit?

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 08:44:52 AM EST
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On RENFE, it's not a detour. There is no direct line, there will be one when the high-speed triangle is finished.

But as said, I first forgot about FEVE, then about the Basques separating off their part.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 08:55:41 AM EST
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At last I found EuskoTren and their San Sebastian-Bilbao timetable. Just 2h15m on their line.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 08:58:02 AM EST
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I had never heard of EuskoTren before.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 4th, 2007 at 09:03:26 AM EST
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