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Thanks for diarying this. I'm starting to wonder if the FFII is the greatest lobbying organisation that ever was.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue May 1st, 2007 at 11:12:58 AM EST
FFII was certainly the first EU grass-root to launch a successful attempt at stopping a EU directive.

I doubt there will be another success.

by Laurent GUERBY on Wed May 2nd, 2007 at 02:37:09 AM EST
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Why not?
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed May 2nd, 2007 at 04:35:53 AM EST
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The EU Commission learned the lesson?

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 2nd, 2007 at 04:38:18 AM EST
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The question is, what lesson? They're still trying all kinds of back doors and proposing all sorts of other Directives to increase IP protection.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed May 2nd, 2007 at 05:05:45 AM EST
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The lesson of how to protect future directives from grass-roots lobbying.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 2nd, 2007 at 05:07:58 AM EST
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We'll see about that :-)
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed May 2nd, 2007 at 05:09:28 AM EST
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Yes and IPRED2 passed first reading with worsening amendments.

Why it won't happen again? Because first one surprised professional lobbyists.

Now there is no more surprise and people involved on the grass root side have all realized when reading the proposed EU constitution that it was hugely worsening the situation and that future was near hopeless so they're no longer putting a huge fight.

You can't reasonably fight as grass root against more than one IP idiotic directive per year.

by Laurent GUERBY on Wed May 2nd, 2007 at 04:08:51 PM EST
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I think to stop the lunacy we must build a political movement that includes strong criticism of IP, and challenge established parties for their seats. Wheter this movement is or simply includes the Pirate parties is yet to be seen. Norwegian Venstre (european liberal) recently copied and translated (paragraph by paragraph) Piratpartiets policy on copyright and then (with some small adaptions) included it in their political platform. That is a hopeful sign that we will not have to build Pirate parties in every country to affect change.

AFAIK all swedish euro-parlamentarians voted no on IPRED2. I do not think it is a coincidence that they are well aware that Piratpartiet will be running in 2009. This will be an issue and they prefer not to loose votes on what (from their perspective) is a marginal issue.

And thanks for this diary.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Wed May 2nd, 2007 at 05:53:42 PM EST
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The Constitution also went down, as you'll remember.

You may be right about the limited stamina of the grassroots, the Surveillance Directive passed pretty much without a fight after the battle against the Software Patents Directive was won.

I don't think the amendments of the EP made IPRED2 worse, by the way. They made it less bad. But the best thing would be not to have the Directive in the first place.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2007 at 05:49:34 AM EST
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