I did not know about it.
The new delivery systems of the submarines make it very easy to launch at least one nukes before being hitten...or at least this is my understnading...but I had no idea that it was related with torpedoes?
What do you mean by torpedo advantage?
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Deployed in the early 1990s, although previously operational, the Shkval is designed as a countermeasure against torpedoes launched by undetected enemy submarines. It may also be used as a counter to incoming torpedoes whereby it is launched at the enemy submarine, forcing it to evade, and hopefully cutting the guidance wire to its own torpedo in the process. The speed of the VA-111 far exceeds that of any standard torpedo currently fielded by NATO. This speed is a result of supercavitation: the torpedo is, in effect, flying in a gas bubble created by outward deflection of water by its specially shaped nose cone. By keeping water from contacting the surface of the body of the torpedo, this significantly reduces drag and allows for extremely high speeds. In effect, the Shkval is an underwater missile. Launched from 533 mm torpedo tubes, the VA-111 exits the tube at 50 knots. Shortly after, its rocket ignites and propels it to speeds of up to 200 knots. Some reports indicate that speeds of 250+ knots may be achieved, and that work on a 300 knot version was underway[1]. Guidance was nonexistent in initial designs, as the missile was intended for nuclear warhead delivery. Later designs reportedly include terminal guidance and conventional warheads of 210kg (460 pounds)[2].
Deployed in the early 1990s, although previously operational, the Shkval is designed as a countermeasure against torpedoes launched by undetected enemy submarines. It may also be used as a counter to incoming torpedoes whereby it is launched at the enemy submarine, forcing it to evade, and hopefully cutting the guidance wire to its own torpedo in the process.
The speed of the VA-111 far exceeds that of any standard torpedo currently fielded by NATO. This speed is a result of supercavitation: the torpedo is, in effect, flying in a gas bubble created by outward deflection of water by its specially shaped nose cone. By keeping water from contacting the surface of the body of the torpedo, this significantly reduces drag and allows for extremely high speeds. In effect, the Shkval is an underwater missile.
Launched from 533 mm torpedo tubes, the VA-111 exits the tube at 50 knots. Shortly after, its rocket ignites and propels it to speeds of up to 200 knots. Some reports indicate that speeds of 250+ knots may be achieved, and that work on a 300 knot version was underway[1].
Guidance was nonexistent in initial designs, as the missile was intended for nuclear warhead delivery. Later designs reportedly include terminal guidance and conventional warheads of 210kg (460 pounds)[2].
It is atechnology whcih combines attack and defense. Teh relevant part for the SCBM platform is the ability of countermeasure to ahve time to deploy the missile..
This is why it is related...
Great info Dodo.. really great info... It is going to the main diary...
I'm not sure there is much torpedo advantage. To my knowledge, the supercavitation torpedoes are not considered mature enough for wide scale deployment. Plus they're useless without a nuke in the tip. Pierre
We even managed to sink the USS Reagan, a supercarrier.
You don't have to be a genius to draw some conclusions. The Swedish Navy hunt Russians subs. The Russians test all their new subs in the Baltic. The Russians sell all their new (diesel) subs to China. The Americans lease a Swedish sub with crew and all. Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
Aircraft have always proved far more effective at hunting submaries than any other platform throughout history. Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
Sure, they are not for the high seas or circumnavigation, but ours is a brownwater navy. And so is the Chinese, Iranian etc... Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
Diesel and the likes are really a pain in the ass of the US Navy, because most real action takes precisely place in shallow waters and/or close to the coast (Persian Gulf, huh ?), and because the US carrier battle groups are notoriously ineffective at sub hunting (active sonars on US surface ships are quite backwards).
They had to invent the concept of tying a hunter-killer like the 688 to each carrier to have some ship capable of tracking another sub (with passive sonars) in the group.
And passive doesn't make it against a diesel in a silent ambush ("guesstimate" the course of the carrier and drift under like a giant submunition mine). Active isn't so good either against a 1000t submarine. Pierre
