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The only rational GCC currency is one explicitly "asset-based" upon an agreed unit of energy, rather than deficit-based with the merely  implicit energy "backing" it now has.

The GCC might usefully set up a "Gulf Clearing Union", with a "Value Unit" consisting of the amount of the different types of Gulf produced energy one US dollar will buy at the launch date.

After that point such a "Petrodollar/ Petrodinar" would of course diverge from the terminally sick deficit-based dollar.

The Iranian OPEC rep - Kazempour Ardebili - told me a couple of years ago in the context of the - now almost mythical Iranian Oil Bourse - that he has been advocating an OPEC "Bank" and Investment Institution (to all intents and purposes a similar outcome to a Clearing Union and Carbon Fund) for almost 20 years now.

As is becoming clear, interest rates have (due to a toxic combination of securisation and credit derivatives) become an almost entirely ineffective - and indeed counter-productive - tool for Central Banks, which now to all intents and purposes are entirely irrelevant to the "real world" economy going to hell in a hand-cart.

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon May 21st, 2007 at 02:41:10 PM EST
Now that last para is another mindblower. Presumably the global mobility of corporations, whether infrastructural or financial corporations, means there are no static targets for Central Banks to hit any more.

I can't get my head around the possible consequences of THAT might be...

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon May 21st, 2007 at 02:53:14 PM EST
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We're seeing the dissolution of the "national" economic scope. The dissolution of the "national" political scope cannot be too far behind.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 22nd, 2007 at 05:19:48 PM EST
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Strange I see that the USA has a strong positive Capital Account surplus.

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by Ronald Rutherford (rdrradio1 -at- msn -dot- com) on Mon May 21st, 2007 at 03:14:04 PM EST
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Financial Capital.

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon May 21st, 2007 at 06:40:51 PM EST
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What is that comment supposed to add to the discussion? Since (Current Account) + (Capital Account) = (Reserves), presumably a trade deficit (negative current account) correlates with a capital account surplus.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 22nd, 2007 at 06:25:07 AM EST
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Thank you Migeru,
So you must realize in a freely floating exchange rate, Reserves are 0 and thus Current Account and Capital Account must balance out.

So instead of saying a deficit we could just as easily state it as a surplus.

As one of my economics teacher said, just put it into the other pocket and call it what it is.

Rutherfordian ------------------------------ RDRutherford

by Ronald Rutherford (rdrradio1 -at- msn -dot- com) on Tue May 22nd, 2007 at 12:20:39 PM EST
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Let's see, if I run up a huge credit card debt to buy stuff I'll also have a current account (trade) deficit and a capital account surplus.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 22nd, 2007 at 12:26:29 PM EST
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National and international "accounting" are totally and utterly surreal.

No relationship to reality whatever.

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Tue May 22nd, 2007 at 12:33:57 PM EST
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It might be the same if you also issued currency and everyone wanted your pieces of paper rather than actual products and services.

Rutherfordian ------------------------------ RDRutherford
by Ronald Rutherford (rdrradio1 -at- msn -dot- com) on Tue May 22nd, 2007 at 12:42:01 PM EST
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Those pieces of paper represent promises of future products and services.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 22nd, 2007 at 12:46:11 PM EST
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Great, excellent.
We will no longer need the Federal Government to maintain what we call "Full Employment".


Rutherfordian ------------------------------ RDRutherford
by Ronald Rutherford (rdrradio1 -at- msn -dot- com) on Tue May 22nd, 2007 at 12:49:18 PM EST
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???

On another order of things...

IMF: How the IMF Can Help Promote a Collaborative Solution to Global Imbalances (Remarks by Rodrigo de Rato, Managing Director, International Monetary Fund, April 4, 2006)

The problem is that good economic performance rests on a shaky foundation, because of large and continuing global imbalances. By definition, imbalances have two sides to them. The most visible aspect of the global imbalances problem is a large deficit in the current account of the balance of payments of the United States--almost 6½ percent of GDP in 2005, and expected to be as high again this year. The other side if the coin is large surpluses in the external accounts of other countries, including oil exporters such as Russia and Saudi Arabia, Japan and the emerging market countries of Asia, especially China. In some of these countries, current account surpluses have contributed to a very large build up of international reserves by central banks. And in the United States, repeated current account deficits have resulted in growing external indebtedness.


Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 22nd, 2007 at 12:52:44 PM EST
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Thanks again.
I am quite familiar with the IMF and have read about "Global Imbalances" mentioned quite a few times but this is a good summary of the views from the IMF.

Of course being a skeptic you must realize that any organization is always looking for relevance for itself.

Les non-concessional loans are being made and thus it needs to spend its resources in other fields that it does not know about fully yet.

Rutherfordian ------------------------------ RDRutherford

by Ronald Rutherford (rdrradio1 -at- msn -dot- com) on Tue May 22nd, 2007 at 03:06:05 PM EST
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And Economics professors are masters of legerdemain.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 22nd, 2007 at 12:42:05 PM EST
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