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By the way, Jerome, a point I'd make: Once upon a time in Tallahassee, my father was an anti-war activist in the era of Vietnam and Nixon.  He likes to say that, sometimes, being a liberal involves losing a lot.

In the short term, we lose a lot on the Left.  But, when we're right, eventually the rest of the people get it.  In the meantime, at least the envelope is pushed.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun May 6th, 2007 at 03:41:18 PM EST
my father was an anti-war activist in the era of Vietnam and Nixon.
Was he also an activist during the era of Vietnam and Kennedy and Johnson.  troop levels escalated under Kennedy, though ignored by the MSM.  johnson's incredible escalation after the Bay of Tonkin.  Johnson's decision not to run for re-election because he had screwed up the war so badly.  The protests marches became very large in Johnson's regime, and continued into Nixon's.
by wchurchill on Sun May 6th, 2007 at 04:01:50 PM EST
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You really think that the Democrats are "liberal", don't you?

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun May 6th, 2007 at 04:05:10 PM EST
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not sure what you mean.  this is simply a factual correction, that I recall since I was at some of those protests during the LBJ presidency.
by wchurchill on Sun May 6th, 2007 at 04:11:13 PM EST
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This is not a fun evening here, so I'm glad you're giving us some light relief, wc.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun May 6th, 2007 at 04:20:09 PM EST
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just trying to pull you out of the doldrums.  isn't the upcoming parliamentary election really just as important as this one?  or almost anyway?
by wchurchill on Sun May 6th, 2007 at 04:26:39 PM EST
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Check out the Wikipedia page on the 2002 French Legislative Elections to see what the likely result is when you hold them 2 months after the Presidentials. The reduction of the Presidential term from 7 to 5 years yo coincide with the length of the Parliamentary term was a transparent attempt at eliminating the possibil9ty of cohabitation, and the UMP even called itself Union for a Presidential Majority. the Parliamentary term should have been reduced to 4 years to preclude synchronicity with the Presidential elections.

Now the question is how long it will take the PS to descend into infighting. I think it will be measured in hours, not days or weeks and that the PS will contest the Legislatives in disarray.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun May 6th, 2007 at 04:44:06 PM EST
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I think, based on DSK's statement on tv just after she finished her statement, that the answer was minutes.
by desmoulins (gsb6@lycos.com) on Sun May 6th, 2007 at 07:13:00 PM EST
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