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I never argue the point because what needs to be argued is the frame of economically efficient allocation, and that's reached the status of a societal dogma.

which is, sorta, a rough paraphrase, why (aside from sleep dep and distraction) I was unable to engage w/M's recent impressive array of charts and graphs on labour, unemployment, etc...  seemd like it was all framed w/in that self-referential mental disneyland of money, industrialism, economic "efficiency" etc. -- it is not I think possible any longer to pretend that we can solve our collective problem(s) as a species by staying inside this frame...  well not for me anyway.  ymmv.


time for Truman to leave the show...

[apologies to M, that impressive presentation deserved a far more thoughtful and meditative response, but this is the best I can do for the nonce... we are all living -- and thinking -- inside Enterprise Village, and I want out...]

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 04:24:33 PM EST
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The illustration style reminds me of scraperboard - which you never see these days

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 04:29:03 PM EST
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it's a woodcut (block print) I believe... name of Flammarion... I think wikipedia has lots of info on it as it is so popular an image (reproduced on stacks of posters and t shirts).

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...
by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 04:49:02 PM EST
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My company has the name of a rather famous woodblock artist ;-) I've always been fascinated by the medium (and also scraperboard, since it is a cheaper version )

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 04:56:13 PM EST
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Lynd Ward was my favourite Western-world block cutter.

But of course the heart and soul of block printing imho is Japan... Hiroshige's Tokaido road print series, etc... ravishingly lovely, unimaginably meticulous craft in both carving and printing...  there is a guy in my own  (present) home town in California who's a great admirer of this tradition and did some very tasty block prints of the Monterey coast, umm google to the rescue:

Tom Killion block prints

these are all places I actually know and have seen from similar vantages w/my own eyes.  nice work.

friend of mine does lino cuts (and occasionally scratchboard) as an alternative to wood blocks which are physically demanding to carve.  all these media terrify me because I am not sure of my line, and certainty of line is required in subtractive media :-)  no erasing and redrawing allowed!

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 05:42:20 PM EST
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I love those Killion prints. In fact I covet them ;-)

Of course scratchboard is both subtractve and additive.

But my personal fave woodblock artist is that 'Old Man Man About Drawing'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hokusai-fuji7.png

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 05:52:28 PM EST
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Mongaku by Ukiyo-e woodblock master Kuniyoshi. (I'm rather a fan.)

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 06:16:10 PM EST
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a stunning image...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 06:20:49 PM EST
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I love Hiroshige's work. I have the whole Tokaido prints set.


"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 07:00:35 PM EST
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<sigh>  beautiful

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...
by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 07:06:30 PM EST
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Any chance this piece of the thread become a blockprint article? Seems we have some collectors and knowledgeable fans amongst us.

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by whataboutbob on Sat Jun 2nd, 2007 at 05:10:52 AM EST
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