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there's almost certainly a gender/power element to the story in addition to race, class, and the insanity of the US "war on drugs" [when are they gonna get around to Pfizer?]... male med professionals all too often disregard female patients' reports of pain or other symptoms, dismissing them as "whining" or "dramatising" or some kind of hypochondria.  it's another facet of the trad patriarchal dismissal of women as "excitable, emotional, overreacting," etc.  ...unlike those stolid reliable males -- football fans, for example? -- whose unemotionality and decorum are unvarying :-)

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...
by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Thu Jun 14th, 2007 at 06:27:55 PM EST
I'm so glad you brought that up!  I almost mentioned it, but I'd already mentioned all the other stuff and didn't want to get sidetracked.  But I think you're completely right.  I've experienced it in my own healthcare stuff.  Right now, both my parents are having health issues and I've been taking them to all the appointments and trips to the hospital.  The difference between how they treat my mom and my dad is readily apparent.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 14th, 2007 at 06:44:47 PM EST
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It's not just a gender thing. I've been banned - no, really - from a local NHS dental access clinic for making the mistake of taking an active interest in my treatment. (In this case it was trying to make sure that a crown which had fallen off wasn't going to abscess at the root - which it subsequently did because of delayed treatment, and which now needs surgery.)

Apparently I'm a risk to the staff there, because I'll go on a violent, possibly drug-induced rampage.

Also, I can only be treated by a male dentist.

I'm now signed on with a dentist in a different county, who - inexplicably - hasn't needed to hire bouncers whenever I visit.

I'm not entirely unsympathetic because frontline healthcare has to be one of the harshest jobs going, so some false positives are only to be expected - even if in this case that means labelling a drug-free vegetarian teetotaller whose last street brawl happened at age 7 as a social risk.

But still. The real problem is the lack of NHS dentistry in this county. I made the mistake of assuming the NHS dental care meant that NHS care would be available. But in practice there almost isn't any, and what used to be a free community service has been reduced to emergency-only status, and even that's only available for very limited periods.

I'd go private but it was a private dentist who caused the problem in the first place by 'improving' a crown that didn't need his attention - possibly just so he could pad out his bottom line. (His surgery has closed now.)

As usual, the underlying issue is our old favourite about greed being good, and the culture of abuse that it's based on. Dehumanising people for financial gain and/or to minimise 'costs' like social services is fascism, pure and simple.

If the system doesn't model empathy and does model scarcity, then scarcity and patient abuse - up to and including preventable death - become inevitable.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jun 14th, 2007 at 09:23:43 PM EST
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The main findings were that, compared to men, women had greater levels of pain intensity and more AIDS-related physical symptoms, and were more likely to have their pain undertreated. Thus, being female was a predictive factor for undertreatment of pain. footnote

Despite national and international guidelines for its management, many patients with pain are not prescribed an analgesic appropriate to the severity of their pain (Cleeland et al., 1994). Evidence suggests that patients in minority groups may have an even greater risk for undertreatment of pain (Anderson et al., 2000; Cleeland et al., 1997). [...] Pain has to be appreciated before it can be treated. In addition, patients seen at centers that treated predominantly minority patients were three times more likely than those treated elsewhere to have inadequate pain management (Cleeland et al., 1997). Other factors that predicted inadequate pain treatment included age of 70 years or older, female sex, and better performance status. [...]  footnote

The problem is not just in the US:

Many women reported that they did not bother to tell their doctor about their problems
because they anticipated an adverse or a non-helpful response. Of those who did talk to
their doctor, especially when they related their side effects to tubal ligation, the
overwhelming majority were dissatisfied with the responses they received. Overall
women appeared to be most unhappy about not being believed in relation to their side
effects; being told that their symptoms were all in their minds; or that the problems they
experienced were individual and idiosyncratic.
Many women were concerned that when they reported abnormal or different menstrual
patterns that caused pain, discomfort or inconvenience, their doctor did not believe there
was a problem. Disillusioned by their doctors' lack of understanding of their symptoms,
they were often told that side effects as a result of their surgery were non-existent - `old
wives tales'. This is in spite a plethora of side-effects for tubal ligation reported in the
scientific literature which included; changed menstrual patterns, period and mid-cycle
pain, perimenopausal symptoms and increased risk of hysterectomy. (Birdsall et al
1994; Goldhaber et al 1993; Peterson et al 1996; Vivanathan & Wyshak 2000).
The consequences of doctors not accepting the knowledge women had of their own
bodies as `real' sometimes meant that symptoms became very severe before they were
attended to, as in the case of undiagnosed ectopic pregnancy (a pregnancy occurring
outside the uterus usually in the fallopian tubes).
footnote

Just one of many reasons why women prefer female ob/gyns especially and female doctors in general;  though there are of course "boys' club" female practitioners who feel it is more "professional" to treat female patients with masculinist mistrust and condescension, thankfully they are relatively few.

See also The DEA War on Pain Doctors  but to be fair I must say 'consider the source':  a drug peddling web site :-)

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Thu Jun 14th, 2007 at 10:18:39 PM EST
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